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Old May 28, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Default R18A Swap.. anyone done it?

Heck.. is it possible?

I'm looking into a B18B1 swap next year.. but it looks like the new 2006+ Civic 1.8 engine rivals the older integra engine and gets far better gas mileage .. i'm wondering if i should hold off. I have a '99 Coupe.

Anyone here done / tried to do a R Series swap?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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if its going to take you a year to get a b18b swap you might be dead before you can afford a r or k series swap.. the work requried to put a r series in your civic would be higher then a kseries swap.. the cost of a kseries swap is mosily in the parts you need beside the motor and tranny to install it.. if i was you i would consider a b16a swap.. lot better then a b18b

you question is like asking i planning to get a crx next year, you think sould i just hold off and get the new nsx?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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you really want an R series? Really?


lmao ok so you want?


aluminum ovalized psleeves?
you want all 3 stages of vtec?
you want a plastic intake manifold?
as far as bulding goes not much potential

i can see why youd want the single port exhaust
but do you really want the egr bigger than the goddamn exhaust manifold?
if you want all this performance oriented stuff then do it lamo the way i see it is its going to end up like the D17 motors
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gezzuzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.. if i was you i would consider a b16a swap.. lot better then a b18b
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Do we really want to go there? I forgot... Oh Em Gee, VTAAAK!!!. The B18B is a great motor, Its cheap(500-1k), reliable and is a great motor to boost. And it has also been known to beat the Amazing B16a when mated with a B16 tranny instead of the stock LS.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do we really want to go there? I forgot... Oh Em Gee, VTAAAK!!!. The B18B is a great motor, Its cheap(500-1k), reliable and is a great motor to boost. And it has also been known to beat the Amazing B16a when mated with a B16 tranny instead of the stock LS. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Dont bother with half of a motor this, and take something from that. Get a B16, get a turbo, even if its a junkyard turbo....tune and have fun...
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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I second that a b18a/b is a great motor and makes really really good power for the price. b18 turbo's will cost about that a b16 would and will make far more power and tq. I have seen b18b's with bolt-ons spank b16's no tq. b16 over rated!
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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DO NOT ******* START A B16 VS B18B THREAD!!
Jesus christ I wish I could smack every single person that says one is better than the other.
Its ALL personal preference.........
PLUS It wasnt even asked!!
Keep it up and this thread will be locked so fast it will make your head spin

Lets keep on topic:
Lame R series engines
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lets keep on topic:
Lame R series engines
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^^ agreed. Last thing we need is 20 pages of bullsh!t about which motor is better. OP, dont waste your time on a R swap. I can imagine the money spent trying to toss one of these motors in a EG/EJ/EK will cost your more than a B18c1/5 and get you **** for hp. You are better off buying a FG.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DO NOT ******* START A B16 VS B18B THREAD!!
Jesus christ I wish I could smack every single person that says one is better than the other.
Its ALL personal preference.........
PLUS It wasnt even asked!!
Keep it up and this thread will be locked so fast it will make your head spin

Lets keep on topic:
Lame R series engines
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x2

plus diggity knows i was about to come in here an open up shop...

an R18 into ur eg/ek will probably when all said an done, cost u about 7-8 grand lol... an my $500 JDM single cam beats the **** outta them... i think people get confused when they hear Single Cam I-VTEC.... The R18A is the most emissioned engine i think hondas workin with right now lol... And NO were not gonna start a B16 vs B18 thread, because 1 the thread will be locked in 4 seconds, and 2 if u just turbo ur single cam ud beat both of them, so yeah were not goin there today...
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do we really want to go there? I forgot... Oh Em Gee, VTAAAK!!!. The B18B is a great motor, Its cheap(500-1k), reliable and is a great motor to boost. And it has also been known to beat the Amazing B16a when mated with a B16 tranny instead of the stock LS. </TD></TR></TABLE>

b16a isnt the best you know? down here in the southeast of asia The d16 easily kills b16s here in the philippines test and proven from my buddies at cabanatuan City, nueva ecija philippines called Cabspeed
so b16s are not so amazing depends on the tuning the aftermarket parts and number 1 the driver...

If he wants an rseries engine let him he gots the money probably and if not the hes just asking if anyone has done it so please answer his question and give him details on the swap
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Isn't the exhaust manifold part of the head? Have fun trying to get around that.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by t0p_sh0tta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't the exhaust manifold part of the head? Have fun trying to get around that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats actyatlly a postive, free turbomanifold

its the ovalized alunium sleeves and plastic intake manifold ready to ballon as soon as it gets a little bit of boost thats the porblem
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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It's a plus in the 7th gen chassis, but it's a PITA when trying to install in another chassis, or go for performance.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmtuner64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

b16a isnt the best you know? </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^ must have completely missed all of the sarcasm in my post.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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What the heck did the R-series come out of?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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06-07 Civic 1.8 SOHC
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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I've seen a plastic manifold blown the hell apart because of a backfire through the intake. I have no clue why the engine even backfired, but I do know we swapped out the intake and the car was good to go. Idled like **** (can you say redline idle?) before the intake swap though...


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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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opening your hood to show a ls motor is like droping your pants when you have a 3" hard ****...
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gezzuzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">opening your hood to show a ls motor is like droping your pants when you have a 3" hard ****...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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To the OP... I'd steer clear of the R18A. The money you save in gas probably won't pay off for a long time what you will have to spend to get it into your car '99.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _skitzo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont bother with half of a motor this, and take something from that. Get a B16, get a turbo, even if its a junkyard turbo....tune and have fun...</TD></TR></TABLE>
So then, would you go so far to say that anyone without an Integra Type R motor should not lookinto getting an ITR transmission?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gezzuzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">opening your hood to show a ls motor is like droping your pants when you have a 3" hard ****...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought we weren't going to make it into that kind of thread?

Honesly though, an LS engine is a good engine and does quite well with another transmission.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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You guys are nuts.

Thanks for the info though. What i'm looking for is naturally aspirated torque, really.. so a 1.6l motor of any sort doesn't seem interesting. I just sold off my heavily tuned chevy to get into the honda thing. I am used to being able to tear *** uphill because of all the torque and i really miss that. Sounds like B18B1 with some go-fast parts would be the ticket.

Word.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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Make sure you buy the right OBD motor for your year and get all the EVAP equipment necessary. Being in CA you are going to have to pass BAR to escape being harassed by the cops and paying 200 for a bullsh!t smog test. If you are going minor bolt-ons make sure they all have CARB certs, for the I/H mainly. And if you are going turbo you can look into Greddy or Edlebrock for CARB legal setups
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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NA TQ? eh GSR will be the cheapest/most TQ i do believe
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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a ls motor might have more "peak" tq but power makes your car fast... if you don;t understand the relation of hp to tq you sould not make comments like "b16a has no tq".. if given a dyno chart with only a tq curve if you can;t draw the hp curve using only a pen and calculator, or why hp=tq at 5252 rpm for every motor in the world, you completely missing to point of hp and tq.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_SOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

x2

plus diggity knows i was about to come in here an open up shop...

an R18 into ur eg/ek will probably when all said an done, cost u about 7-8 grand lol... an my $500 JDM single cam beats the **** outta them... i think people get confused when they hear Single Cam I-VTEC.... The R18A is the most emissioned engine i think hondas workin with right now lol... And NO were not gonna start a B16 vs B18 thread, because 1 the thread will be locked in 4 seconds, and 2 if u just turbo ur single cam ud beat both of them, so yeah were not goin there today...</TD></TR></TABLE>


theres no replacement for displacment remember that
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