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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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which is a better intake overall based on experiances from u guys??? what do u guys think about using the stock air box w/a spoon air cleaner or w/ the mugen air filter???? any suggestions would be gladly appreciated thanks alot
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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this topic has been covered many times before
try searching and i'm sure you will get pages of useful info

for the best price to performance ratio
fujita cold air intake would be the best
close second (only due to the higher price) is the injen cold air intake
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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Umm, it's an intake...a tube and a filter. It's not like Injen's pipe is that much better than AEM's.

Just buy one that's the right diameter and be done with it.

Get a sealed box (Icebox, etc) if you can afford it.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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its not just a "tube and a filter"
there are different filters and different angle tubing
example: cold air to a v2 to a inbox intake

if they were all the same i would of bought the cheapest one lol

but for more info check out this link
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=237451
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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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Different angles? As long as the tube is a constant diameter, and is big enough for the engine's breathing needs, the bends it takes aren't really an issue...there's only so many ways to route an intake tube, especially in a crowded engine bay.

Yes, filters are different. But if you believe there is any measurable difference in power output, you're sorely mistaken. There was one test a few years ago that showed like a 1hp difference between different filters (which is statistically insignificant, as it could be from dyno variances).

The V2 is unique in the sense that it is varying diameters; if you know much about fluid dynamics you'll understand how this creates pressure differentials.

Pressurized boxes, like the stock one or an Icebox, get the best of both worlds, to an extent. You have the short tubing of an SRI with the cold air coming in from somewhere outside of the engine bay. The pressurization helps draw in more air.

But in the end, it's just an intake -- pick one that's the right size, and concentrate on the real power-makers, and developing an engine package that works well.

'nuff said.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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that's what i ment about different angles
cai/v2/box are not the same so they have different approaches

i'm not saying that there is a huge difference in filters but there is a difference
my fujita filter seems cheaper compared to the injen i had
therefore, i'm purchasing a injen filter instead of cleaning my current one

just to add more info
i believe hondata recommends the use of a cai with thier engine management
if you plan to mod that far
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Old May 28, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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I don't see why that would be the case; the car would get tuned for whatever intake you happen to have.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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eh, who knows
its just their recommendation
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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There usually isn't much to differentiate one filter-on-a-stick intake from another.

However, the more expensive intakes (like Mugen) will often not look anything at all like a filter on a stick, and they will often incorporate plenum chambers to keep the air pressure up, or velocity devices to keep the air speed up.

This can make for a more pleasant driving experience.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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from my dyno experiance the injen came out on top (vs fujita) and they are not just tubes with filters.. aem lacks in their design form the bends, injen is better off because of the built in velocity stack in their filter.. if you think that dosent matter i sujest you go to Bp iniciatives and check their dynos.. intakes are not just intakes.. but if you want more info go to club rsx.. they argue abotu it every day .. you can see the results from their polls and research.. if you dont wana take my word for it ..
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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Aem V2
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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IMO (I've owned both), the Comptech Icebox for the RSX is better than the Mugen intake for the RSX, because the Mugen is designed for the JDM version and pics up air (on the USDM cars) in a very poor location.

Comptech is a lot cheaper too.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hawaiiancb74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from my dyno experiance the injen came out on top (vs fujita) and they are not just tubes with filters.. aem lacks in their design form the bends, injen is better off because of the built in velocity stack in their filter.. if you think that dosent matter i sujest you go to Bp iniciatives and check their dynos.. intakes are not just intakes.. but if you want more info go to club rsx.. they argue abotu it every day .. you can see the results from their polls and research.. if you dont wana take my word for it .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
really?
injen &gt; fujita
that's news to me
i've owned both and couldn't tell the difference in power (seeing its probably only 1-2 whp)
but my fujita definitely sounds louder than the injen
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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ARC super induction box FTW! my favorite intake
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Old May 28, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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^ if i could afford that i would of got one
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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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well i know its expensive but i already hate the fact that im paying 300 bucks for a cold air that is pretty much a metal pipe and a filter no matter how you look at it and with a ARC it gives you a nice sound, good gains and something to look at in the engine bay i hate that big empty space in the engine bay when you have a cold air. but right now im running an aem cold air but it broke so im saving for an ARC intake
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheGSRGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Different angles? As long as the tube is a constant diameter, and is big enough for the engine's breathing needs, the bends it takes aren't really an issue...there's only so many ways to route an intake tube, especially in a crowded engine bay.

Yes, filters are different. But if you believe there is any measurable difference in power output, you're sorely mistaken. There was one test a few years ago that showed like a 1hp difference between different filters (which is statistically insignificant, as it could be from dyno variances).

The V2 is unique in the sense that it is varying diameters; if you know much about fluid dynamics you'll understand how this creates pressure differentials.

Pressurized boxes, like the stock one or an Icebox, get the best of both worlds, to an extent. You have the short tubing of an SRI with the cold air coming in from somewhere outside of the engine bay. The pressurization helps draw in more air.

But in the end, it's just an intake -- pick one that's the right size, and concentrate on the real power-makers, and developing an engine package that works well.

'nuff said. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i love this guy i've been preaching the same thing and no one sees this, they are all hell bent about "well AEM says this and Injen says that etc..." I just got tired of saying the same thing over and over. At least someone understands this besides me
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I have an Aem v2, its a pain in the *** to put in because it doesnt fit right, and i have an aftermarket fiberglass hood which has scoops so it took an hour to adjust the thing to make it fit, the hood still wont shut right. You can feel a slight increas in power around 3 to 4 rpm , my suggestion would be to go with the v2 despite the problems because u can feel the power increase and also the v-tec is LOUD. But it if you want to save some cash get the injen mega sri for 200 shipped at clubrsx. Dont go with a Cold air unless you really want to. The risk of hydrolocking your motor depending on where you live isn't worth the 3-4 hp.
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