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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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What would be best to get? B16A SiR II obd1 or H22A obd1. I'm workin with a 96 cicix dx 4dr. I'm not sure which one to get. the H22 is like $200 cheaper than the B16. Let me know what's up.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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id take the power of an h22 over a b16 any day
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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crispy93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id take the power of an h22 over a b16 any day </TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds dope. will i be able to just drop it in or will i be running into problems with space or anything?
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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ive heard mixed stories...some people say its a bit cramped fitting the motor in and others say its easier than dropping a b series...personally ive never done it, but my buddy had an h22 in his hatch and the thing owned
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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ok... now tell me what you think of this site http://www.japanracingengines.com

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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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never heard of that site...personally, for a couple hundred dollars more id go with hmotorsonline.com because from what everyone says theyre really good. and i dont know about that site, but hmotors motors come with warranties i believe.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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looks better than the other site. i'll keep it in mind when i make my purchase. thanks yo.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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H22 ftw!
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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I would definitely get the H22. Its a bigger engine with more power so to me theres no question to me. Only disadvantage the H22 has is the weight of the engine and it doesn't even weight that much more than the B16.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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i would buy the motor from hmotors because thats where i picked up my h22 long block. and since your car is obd2 i would talk to steve, which is the owner of hmotors. and get a obd2 one. it will make things easier. but heres something to remember, if you do a straight h22 swap your gonna have to cut your firewall for the cable shifter. i don't like cable shifters so i bought the QSD h2b kit. now i run a h22a with a ctr tranny.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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it really depends on your ultimate goal...

are you staying N/A or going F/I in the future?

IMO if you are going F/I i would opt for the b16 for all the parts they offer.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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id say get the b16. the h22 is a very heavy motor and is generally more expensive and harder to find. if possible a b18c1 from an integra gsr would be the best bet.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IrishSaint816 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 is a very heavy motor and is generally more expensive and harder to find.</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay dude first off the h22 is about 200 lbs heavier. and second you can find a h22 pretty damn easy. and not much more then a b16.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id say get the b16. the h22 is a very heavy motor and is generally more expensive and harder to find. if possible a b18c1 from an integra gsr would be the best bet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550

I always heard about the H22 being so much heavier and I used to think it was too but that thread definitely shows its not that much heavier.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dannis. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would buy the motor from hmotors because thats where i picked up my h22 long block. and since your car is obd2 i would talk to steve, which is the owner of hmotors. and get a obd2 one. it will make things easier. but heres something to remember, if you do a straight h22 swap your gonna have to cut your firewall for the cable shifter. i don't like cable shifters so i bought the QSD h2b kit. now i run a h22a with a ctr tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the thing is that i don't have time or the knowledge to do the job my self. 3k is going to be the max amount that i'll be able to work with. there's a dude here that's notorious for outstanding work. so i'll probably discuss this with him and see if he can work with me. a friend of mine had a b16 in his ej6 and it ran pretty sweet until they jacked it. it's up in the air still. the main thing is the 3k budget. what will benefit more?
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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if your on a 3k budget. i would just buy an ls, turbo and tune it. and you'll be set for a min. my buddy running a stock ls tuned on 8psi hit just short of 280 hp on the jet. with a few basic bolt ons.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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true that man. if i got an ls and went vtec then turbo. what would i be looking at. from what i heard is that ls vtec shouldn't be used as a daily driver. also people hit hondas left and right here. it doesn't help that i live in apartments either.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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if your on a 3k budget i wouldnt even think about ls/vtec-t right now. just go ls-t.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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plus to add the shop i told yall about. the dude there found a b16 for 1k. never know maybe he'll find me a dope *** deal. the ls i'll keep in mind. it's good to broaden your options. my goal is ***** out power on the track. i'm not much for street, and second my d16y7 sucks.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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just to let you know you can usually find a complete ls swap(which means mounts, axles, dizzy, tranny, ect) for around 500 bucks.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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well i have a eg w/ a jdm b16 and it ran with a h22 in a 96 prelude. I'd say for the amout of parts avaiable for a b16 over a h22 go with it. h22 are strait line whereas a b16 can be focused on time trials and strait. go for a b18c1 or c5 too tho.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egSLEEPER13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 are strait line whereas a b16 can be focused on time trials and strait.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you aware of h2b set ups. i run one and i auto x.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egSLEEPER13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i have a eg w/ a jdm b16 and it ran with a h22 in a 96 prelude. I'd say for the amout of parts avaiable for a b16 over a h22 go with it. h22 are strait line whereas a b16 can be focused on time trials and strait. go for a b18c1 or c5 too tho.</TD></TR></TABLE>

preludes are slow...your eg with H22 would be low 14s as now you run 15s.

H22s are not just straight line...they can run autox as that guy said runs great with an H2B plate.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ejallday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true that man. if i got an ls and went vtec then turbo. what would i be looking at. from what i heard is that ls vtec shouldn't be used as a daily driver. also people hit hondas left and right here. it doesn't help that i live in apartments either.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so many misinformation on this site now with all these newbie 2007 joining...i am not even going to say anything but give an example...my brother had 419 hp LS/VTEC and it was his daily driver....


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IrishSaint816 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id say get the b16. the h22 is a very heavy motor and is generally more expensive and harder to find. if possible a b18c1 from an integra gsr would be the best bet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dear god...just cause it looks bigger doesnt mean its THAT muc heavier...if you really are worried about teh front being heavier then you shouldnt even go turbo as you add in another 50+ lbs of dead weight.

please people if you dont know the answer or if you think you know dont post...cause your probably wrong...search.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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just depends on your preference, between the 2 swaps they are both great engines. b16 are a more common swaps based on simplicity of swap. h22 is a different kind swap but has a little more power. but to answer your question the h22 is the best bang for buck imo, for anyone on a budget. as for the turbo if your looking for alot of power for the money pure LS turbo would be fine and can be daily driven.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Do many of those JDM motor sales sites rip people off? Or are most legit? When I saw that you could get an LS engine on there for like $800 I was like woah, I was about to spend that much on HID headlights for my Bimmer!
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