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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 10:07 PM
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Default LS front sway (22mm) + Type-R rear sway (22mm) == bad idea?

I'm considering installing a Type-R rear sway bar on my LS, but I'm concerned about the size of it... The Type-R's rear sway bar is 22mm and it's intended to go with the Type-R's 24mm front sway bar. My LS has a 22mm front sway bar and a 13mm rear sway bar. Would upgrading to a Type-R 22mm rear sway bar be a good or bad idea? I'm worried that it's a bit too big to go with my 22mm front sway bar... Will I end up with understeer as a result?

Anyone with this setup care to share their experiences/opinions?

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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Default Re: LS front sway (22mm) + Type-R rear sway (22mm) == bad idea? (Weston)

the itr rear swaybar increases oversteer in your understeer happy car. it'll give you a more neutral handling car. i've heard nothing but good about this mod, best bang for buck for supsension. just make sure you get that swaybar mounted correctly so you dont have any subframe damage. eg: bsq mount kit....
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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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Don't touch your front sway bar or otherwise change it, you will conteract the understeer the rear one will take away...

in other words your adding 2 + 0... then take that and subtract 2... you end up with nothing...

Just do the rear sway bar, it helps and handles ALOT better :D best bang for the buck suspention mod.
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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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Default Re: LS front sway (22mm) + Type-R rear sway (22mm) == bad idea? (Weston)

though i'm considering the ITR rear sway upgrade on my DB8 which has a 24mm front as well, i've heard some members on this board who do say their DC2/DB8's hit their grip limits a lot more abruptly than with the stock setup, i.e. they got into accidents cuz it inspires a little too much confidence and the tail could step out faster than you think. the safety behind the understeer is that it's predictable and you know when your car is reaching its limits of adhesion. so i'd say go for it but be careful about it.
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 01:04 AM
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how much does it cost?
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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Default Re: LS front sway (22mm) + Type-R rear sway (22mm) == bad idea? (Weston)

I have sold my BSQ Type-R rear swaybar mounting/reinforcement kit to a lot of people with 22mm front swaybar (RS/LS owners) and I haven't received or read any negative feedback on this setup. My suggestion would be to install the Type-R 22mm rear swaybar with the stock 22mm front swaybar and see how the handling feels to you. If the handling feels fine then to you then there is no need to upgrade the front swaybar. But if you "feel" that handling is to loose (ie. oversteer) for you, then you can upgrade to the 24mm GS-R/Type-R front swaybar.

As mentioned the Type-R rear swaybar inspires confidence in the handling to go faster. But sometimes people go to "hot" into a turn or a corner and they lift off of the throttle or apply the brakes while turning and this causes the car to oversteer. My suggestion is to slowly familiarize yourself with the handling characteristics after upgrading the rear swaybar. Don't think just because you have upgraded the rear swaybar (which will reduce understeer) that you can take a particular corner 2X faster than before. Gradually build up your confidence level in the handling after upgrading any part of your suspension (ie. springs, shocks/struts, swaybars).
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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Default Re: LS front sway (PaChiLa Leader)

how much does it cost?
The Type-R rear swaybar and all the bushings, brackets, nuts and bolts will cost ~$85-$90 shipped when ordered from http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net . My BSQ Type-R rear swaybar mounting/reinforcement kit ( http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html) cost $20 shipped. So you are looking at a total cost of ~$105-$110 for everything.
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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how much does it cost?

The Type-R rear swaybar and all the bushings, brackets, nuts and bolts will cost ~$85-$90 shipped when ordered from http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net</a> . My BSQ Type-R rear swaybar mounting/reinforcement kit ( <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html) cost $20 shipped. So you are looking at a total cost of ~$105-$110 for everything.

110 bux..... wow.. would i be better off buying a Z-10 kit?? it's aftermarket so ~~
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: LS front sway (22mm) + Type-R rear sway (22mm) == bad idea? (Weston)

suspension techniques rear sway bar
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 08:55 AM
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Default Re: LS front sway (BSQ)

I have sold my BSQ Type-R rear swaybar mounting/reinforcement kit to a lot of people with 22mm front swaybar (RS/LS owners) and I haven't received or read any negative feedback on this setup. My suggestion would be to install the Type-R 22mm rear swaybar with the stock 22mm front swaybar and see how the handling feels to you. If the handling feels fine then to you then there is no need to upgrade the front swaybar. But if you "feel" that handling is to loose (ie. oversteer) for you, then you can upgrade to the 24mm GS-R/Type-R front swaybar.

As mentioned the Type-R rear swaybar inspires confidence in the handling to go faster. But sometimes people go to "hot" into a turn or a corner and they lift off of the throttle or apply the brakes while turning and this causes the car to oversteer. My suggestion is to slowly familiarize yourself with the handling characteristics after upgrading the rear swaybar. Don't think just because you have upgraded the rear swaybar (which will reduce understeer) that you can take a particular corner 2X faster than before. Gradually build up your confidence level in the handling after upgrading any part of your suspension (ie. springs, shocks/struts, swaybars).
i think that's what i meant to say, but brett is the true poet when it comes to talking about the ITR rear sway bar.
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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110 bux..... wow.. would i be better off buying a Z-10 kit?? it's aftermarket so ~~
Well the Z10 kit and the Type-R rear swaybar serve two different purposes. The Z10 "radius rods form a solid connection between the lower control arm and the crossmember preventing any deflection in the suspension assembly" (quote taken from Z10's website). So the Z10 helps on wheel hop (eg. drag racing). Whereas, the Type-R rear swaybar reduces the amount of weight transfer to the front wheels which helps to reduce or eliminate understeer and body roll.

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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Got you man..

keep in touch.
i will purchase it from you very soon
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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My BSQ Type-R rear swaybar mounting/reinforcement kit ( <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html[/url]) cost $20 shipped.
ordered one yesterday
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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what about NEW JDM ITR 23mm sway bar??
even better??

and where can i get them?
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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Default Re: LS front sway (PaChiLa Leader)

Just the Type R Rear Sway Bar is fine. My main concern with the bar was that I heard the car would get tailhappy, or twitchy. This is not the case with me. Best suspension mod Ive done, and no problems over 2 years with the BSQ mounting kit
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Default Re: LS front sway (PaChiLa Leader)

what about NEW JDM ITR 23mm sway bar??
even better??

and where can i get them?
...not that new. Been out since 98 in Japan.
1mm more isn't worth all the 'jdm' commotion, just get a US ITR rear bar and call it a day.
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