Think I should fight this ticket?
On May 20th, 2007 at approximately 5:30PM I left my house to go on a quick sunday drive. I geared up with my Alpinestars GP Tech Gloves, my Dainese Jacket, a pair of Asolo hiking boots, and my AGV Helmet. Didn't bother to wear my leather pants because it looks funny with the boots and I wan't exactly planning on carving corners. Just wanted to get some air.
So I leave my house and start to make my way to the gas station. The fuel light is on. I approach the stoplight to which it was red. I lift my visor up as soon as I came to a stop.
To my right and parallel of me was a Forest Park Police Patrol car. He looks over on his left and saw me. He's looking at me. I make my right and pull up to the intersection that he is at. He makes a right on his green and gets into the left lane and drives pretty slow. At this point he is ahead of me and starts to slow down and eventually gets into the turning lane and STOPS!
I think nothing of it and make my way to him and passes him at 5mph less than the posted 45mph. As soon as I pass him he flips his lights, gets behind me and chirps. I proceeded with caution and pull over. As soon as I pull over, I kill the ignition, put the bike on its stand, remove my gloves then helmet and awaited for him to approach. I greeted him and he replied:
Officer: Good evening, do you know why I pulled you over?
Me: No sir
Officer: You did not have protective eye wear.
Me: I'm sorry, I don't understand officer, my helmet has a visor.
Officer: Yeah, but you didn't have it down.
Me: You mean at the stop light over there?
Officer: Yeah, you must always have protective eyewear.
Me: *Speechless*
So I get a ticket for not having protective eyewear.
I am so happy that the officer took the time to make sure I was safe. Kudo's to him for doing his job. He told me he had not written one of these tickets for 10 years and even blew the dust off his book to flip through and find the proper code. Anyone want me to upload the picture of the ticket?
So I leave my house and start to make my way to the gas station. The fuel light is on. I approach the stoplight to which it was red. I lift my visor up as soon as I came to a stop.
To my right and parallel of me was a Forest Park Police Patrol car. He looks over on his left and saw me. He's looking at me. I make my right and pull up to the intersection that he is at. He makes a right on his green and gets into the left lane and drives pretty slow. At this point he is ahead of me and starts to slow down and eventually gets into the turning lane and STOPS!
I think nothing of it and make my way to him and passes him at 5mph less than the posted 45mph. As soon as I pass him he flips his lights, gets behind me and chirps. I proceeded with caution and pull over. As soon as I pull over, I kill the ignition, put the bike on its stand, remove my gloves then helmet and awaited for him to approach. I greeted him and he replied:
Officer: Good evening, do you know why I pulled you over?
Me: No sir
Officer: You did not have protective eye wear.
Me: I'm sorry, I don't understand officer, my helmet has a visor.
Officer: Yeah, but you didn't have it down.
Me: You mean at the stop light over there?
Officer: Yeah, you must always have protective eyewear.
Me: *Speechless*
So I get a ticket for not having protective eyewear.
I am so happy that the officer took the time to make sure I was safe. Kudo's to him for doing his job. He told me he had not written one of these tickets for 10 years and even blew the dust off his book to flip through and find the proper code. Anyone want me to upload the picture of the ticket?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGlovr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pics are a must.
let me do some research (since i have nothing better to do here at work
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You got it, will go home and post it up.
I'll blur out my personal info but will leave my name on there with everything else.
BTW, the ticket costs $40.
let me do some research (since i have nothing better to do here at work
)</TD></TR></TABLE>You got it, will go home and post it up.
I'll blur out my personal info but will leave my name on there with everything else.BTW, the ticket costs $40.
BTW, I noticed the way you start off a report........LEO?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am so happy that the officer took the time to make sure I was safe. Kudo's to him for doing his job. He told me he had not written one of these tickets for 10 years and even blew the dust off his book to flip through and find the proper code. Anyone want me to upload the picture of the ticket?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think this is the first time I've read about someone being happy about getting a ticket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am so happy that the officer took the time to make sure I was safe. Kudo's to him for doing his job. He told me he had not written one of these tickets for 10 years and even blew the dust off his book to flip through and find the proper code. Anyone want me to upload the picture of the ticket?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think this is the first time I've read about someone being happy about getting a ticket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGlovr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah looks like you're f'd man:
Case Study On Visor Laws
http://www.r6messagenet.com/fo...91189</TD></TR></TABLE>
LoL...Thanks for the encouragement! You coming to court with me too? Hahaha
you = teh suckzors!
j/k
Case Study On Visor Laws
http://www.r6messagenet.com/fo...91189</TD></TR></TABLE>
LoL...Thanks for the encouragement! You coming to court with me too? Hahaha
you = teh suckzors!
j/k
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9civic5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, I noticed the way you start off a report........LEO?
I think this is the first time I've read about someone being happy about getting a ticket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
LEO? Huh?
I was being sarcastic about the ticket.
Not too happy about it.
I think this is the first time I've read about someone being happy about getting a ticket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
LEO? Huh?
I was being sarcastic about the ticket.
Not too happy about it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9civic5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Law Enforcement Officer = LEO
Anyway, it is a dumb ticket, but atleast its a cheap one.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh no. One of my good friends is though. Too bad he's in a different city. Watched him write reports before.
Anyway, it is a dumb ticket, but atleast its a cheap one.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh no. One of my good friends is though. Too bad he's in a different city. Watched him write reports before.
You can seriously get a ticket for having your visor up while stopped??? That's lame. I think that cop was just bored. I flip my visor up at every light, helmets get effin' stuffy when you're not moving, you gotta breathe.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He pulled you over because he was looking to nail you on something else - license, insurance, registration, inspection, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
...and got pissed that he couldn't get me on anything and instead of letting me off with a warning he decides to write a ticket.
That's what I'm thinking. Isn't that profiling and illegal? Sure it's $40, but it's the principle of things. I dunno. I'll take a day off work to go to court.
...and got pissed that he couldn't get me on anything and instead of letting me off with a warning he decides to write a ticket.
That's what I'm thinking. Isn't that profiling and illegal? Sure it's $40, but it's the principle of things. I dunno. I'll take a day off work to go to court.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...and got pissed that he couldn't get me on anything and instead of letting me off with a warning he decides to write a ticket.
That's what I'm thinking. Isn't that profiling and illegal? Sure it's $40, but it's the principle of things. I dunno. I'll take a day off work to go to court.
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Thats exactly what he was doing....profiling. I would so fight that. There is no way that he can give you a ticket while you are not moving for your visor being up.
Anyways is that eye protection law country wide? Cause I have never heard of it at all.
That's what I'm thinking. Isn't that profiling and illegal? Sure it's $40, but it's the principle of things. I dunno. I'll take a day off work to go to court.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats exactly what he was doing....profiling. I would so fight that. There is no way that he can give you a ticket while you are not moving for your visor being up.
Anyways is that eye protection law country wide? Cause I have never heard of it at all.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Baltz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats exactly what he was doing....profiling. I would so fight that. There is no way that he can give you a ticket while you are not moving for your visor being up.
Anyways is that eye protection law country wide? Cause I have never heard of it at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you look closely at the ticket, it's checked "Local Ordanance." That's my thought's exactly, I was not moving when my visor was up. As soon as I started moving, I flipped my visor down. I always do anyways because I wear contacts and even the slightest wind will dry my eyes up and irritate it.
Thats exactly what he was doing....profiling. I would so fight that. There is no way that he can give you a ticket while you are not moving for your visor being up.
Anyways is that eye protection law country wide? Cause I have never heard of it at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you look closely at the ticket, it's checked "Local Ordanance." That's my thought's exactly, I was not moving when my visor was up. As soon as I started moving, I flipped my visor down. I always do anyways because I wear contacts and even the slightest wind will dry my eyes up and irritate it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Defense...
you honor... I flipped the visor up momentarilly to allow it to defog FTW
That is if the "I am Legally blind defense doesn't workout for you"</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking the "insanity" plea in leu of the blind defense or I can use the Chewbaca Defense?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"Cochran: Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Gerald Broflovski: Damn it!
Chef: What?
Gerald: He's using the Chewbacca Defense!
Cochran: Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."</TD></TR></TABLE>
you honor... I flipped the visor up momentarilly to allow it to defog FTW
That is if the "I am Legally blind defense doesn't workout for you"</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking the "insanity" plea in leu of the blind defense or I can use the Chewbaca Defense?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"Cochran: Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Gerald Broflovski: Damn it!
Chef: What?
Gerald: He's using the Chewbacca Defense!
Cochran: Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you look closely at the ticket, it's checked "Local Ordanance." That's my thought's exactly, I was not moving when my visor was up. As soon as I started moving, I flipped my visor down. I always do anyways because I wear contacts and even the slightest wind will dry my eyes up and irritate it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Len, I would fight it because of this right here. Also because of the fact that he clearly stated that 'it had been ten years' since he wrote the same ticket.
That being said, you could easily rebuttle the arguement of safety in this case as this ticket is rarely written at all. Also, his hand writing is a bit rough.
If you look closely at the ticket, it's checked "Local Ordanance." That's my thought's exactly, I was not moving when my visor was up. As soon as I started moving, I flipped my visor down. I always do anyways because I wear contacts and even the slightest wind will dry my eyes up and irritate it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Len, I would fight it because of this right here. Also because of the fact that he clearly stated that 'it had been ten years' since he wrote the same ticket.
That being said, you could easily rebuttle the arguement of safety in this case as this ticket is rarely written at all. Also, his hand writing is a bit rough.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That being said, you could easily rebuttle the arguement of safety in this case as this ticket is rarely written at all. Also, his hand writing is a bit rough.</TD></TR></TABLE> 
the (in)frequency of ticket writing doesnt make him less guilty of the crime

the (in)frequency of ticket writing doesnt make him less guilty of the crime
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He pulled you over because he was looking to nail you on something else - license, insurance, registration, inspection, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
+1
cops are such asses to rider sometimes.
+1
cops are such asses to rider sometimes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGlovr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 
the (in)frequency of ticket writing doesnt make him less guilty of the crime</TD></TR></TABLE>
Man don't use the "c" word. It makes me feel like a felon.
Sitting in prison:
Angry Abdul: So what are you guys in here for?
Nasty Nate: I robbed a grocery store, killed the owner and raped his daughter.
Angry Abdul: No way man! Almost the same for me except I lined everyone up and executed them one by one. What about you little one?
Me: Um...I lifted my face shield at a stoplight to breathe.

the (in)frequency of ticket writing doesnt make him less guilty of the crime</TD></TR></TABLE>
Man don't use the "c" word. It makes me feel like a felon.
Sitting in prison:
Angry Abdul: So what are you guys in here for?
Nasty Nate: I robbed a grocery store, killed the owner and raped his daughter.
Angry Abdul: No way man! Almost the same for me except I lined everyone up and executed them one by one. What about you little one?
Me: Um...I lifted my face shield at a stoplight to breathe.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Angry Abdul: So what are you guys in here for?
Nasty Nate: I robbed a grocery store, killed the owner and raped his daughter.
Angry Abdul: No way man! Almost the same for me except I lined everyone up and executed them one by one. What about you little one?
Me: Um...I lifted my face shield at a stoplight to breathe. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude. That makes you almost as hardcore as the guy that ripped the tag off a mattress
Angry Abdul: So what are you guys in here for?
Nasty Nate: I robbed a grocery store, killed the owner and raped his daughter.
Angry Abdul: No way man! Almost the same for me except I lined everyone up and executed them one by one. What about you little one?
Me: Um...I lifted my face shield at a stoplight to breathe. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude. That makes you almost as hardcore as the guy that ripped the tag off a mattress







