I was wanting a brake upgrade and was wondering if the ITR brakes bolt onto the prelude because i thought they use the same pads? im asking because the after market for brakes is shitty for us. and ive heard the legend/nsx swap isn't that great

 

Everything I have ever read says they are interchangable between ITRs, 5th gen Preludes, and 4th gen VTEC Preludes.

 

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thats tight ! no need for a bracket or anything either? This helps alot with aftermarket selection then ! hehe.

has this topic been covered before? i didn't find it searching

 

also did the ITR use the same brakes as other integras?

 

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Why do you need better brakes? More times than not when I have heard this about VTEC brake systems, it was the system that needed help not the brakes.
For years I ran stock calipers with stainless lines, parts store rotors, and nice pads for everything from street driving to full blown 100% track days.
I now run NSX calipers and I can say braking is a little crisper in track conditions.

If youre not Racing the car at all, I think it would benefit from just doing lines, fluid, pads, rotors. I just can't see spending the BIG $$$ for a Big Brake Kit that will just look pretty behind a 17" wheel.
Just my .02

 

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Why do you need better brakes? More times than not when I have heard this about VTEC brake systems, it was the system that needed help not the brakes.
For years I ran stock calipers with stainless lines, parts store rotors, and nice pads for everything from street driving to full blown 100% track days.
I now run NSX calipers and I can say braking is a little crisper in track conditions.

If youre not Racing the car at all, I think it would benefit from just doing lines, fluid, pads, rotors. I just can't see spending the BIG $$$ for a Big Brake Kit that will just look pretty behind a 17" wheel.
Just my .02
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my car is a dd but i do track it every so often, so the longevity and quicker stopping of better calipers and rotors would be a benefit.

 

Also 5th gen Accord V6 and Wagon brakes are the same too.

 

need clarification on what gen tegs? is it the 94-2001 tegs that are interchangeable with 4th gen Vtecs?

 

Would the R brakes actually be "better" than the VTEC brakes, though?

 

Vtec calipers are the same as R calipers. So if you have VTEC calipers already then switching to R's is a waste of time. Also the brackets vary between the diffrent models. Accord V6's use 25t brackets and Vtec ludes use 23t brackets. I forget which ones the R's use. But the calipers and pads are all the same...Also the only benefit of NSX calipers is the bling and the aluminum caliper.

 

I would like a carbon/ceramic brake kit please.

 

Is the NSX caliper a direct bolt on ?

 

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It sure is. They are a 2 piston design and made from aluminum. You can use regular VTEC pads/rotors with them.

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Im not sure about this one.....Sure they look great behind the wheels, and are lighter but I have to assume that they will bite harder than stock VTEC calipers. I have never done any sort of testing with mine but the overall feel on the track is much better. Not sure if they bite quicker or harder with less pedal effort, but its something. They also appear to be kinder to my full blown track pads in high heat conditions. I think that braking differs greatly from person to person so the average person may not benefit from them. I personally am a late-quick-hard braker so they may work better for me. I also DO NOT run ABS on the track.
If you have a 5lug setup, I would also suggest the use of LEGEND ROTORS as they are the same thickness of NSX rotors. Our VTEC rotors are about 3mm thinner and if you wear pads all the way down like some people, you will need some extra shims or an old backing from a used pad. I don't really care about this because I change my pads several times a season.

 

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Im not sure about this one.....Sure they look great behind the wheels, and are lighter but I have to assume that they will bite harder than stock VTEC calipers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Naw, they may "seem" to bite harder but unless you have increased the MC piston diameter then you are still pushing the same amount of fluid through out your system. What you may be experiencing is the less caliper flex you get with the NSX calipers ,another benefit I forgot to mention..

 

Is there a certain year from the NSX the calipers need to be from? or are they all the same?

 

well what kind of pads do you guys recomend. i have EBC green stuff on right now and im not too impressed.

 

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Naw, they may "seem" to bite harder but unless you have increased the MC piston diameter then you are still pushing the same amount of fluid through out your system. What you may be experiencing is the less caliper flex you get with the NSX calipers ,another benefit I forgot to mention..</TD></TR></TABLE>

That could very well be. I noticed a difference and was using the same exact pad/rotor combo as I was with the VTEC calipers. The only reason I even bought them was to be able to swap my VTEC calipers onto my Si. I was looking at spending 2-300 for THAT swap and came across freshly rebuilt NSX calipers for $400. When I priced it out through my dealership I was quoted ~$1200 for a pair of New NSX calipers with no core trade in....And that was my dealer price!
They do look a whole lot better than the VTEC calipers and fit under my 15's.

 

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Well it really depends on the Driving you are doing. for Daily Driven, I swear by OEM Honda pads from the dealer. They are consistent, don't squeal, don't dust, and are cheap. The OEM pads are the same for some Accords which are heavier.
For Spirited Driving to AutoX I like Cobalt GT Sports
For Pure Track Driving I like Cobalt SpecB & SpecVR depending on the track I am at, and whether or not I am running my Race Rubber or just Sticky Street tires.
Cobalt has a whole new lineup of pads for 2007....customer service is great, and shipping is very fast/precise. They have actually shipped pads to me in far away cities and never had an issue.
Sure there a re tons of companies out there making pads, but I would look to Honda Challenge where Cobalt has a huge presence as well as CarboTech. I have never run CT's but have heard nothing but great things about them.
The HAWKs I tried caused so much dusting that I just couldn't take it anymore, not to mention the squeal and screeching!
Just my .02!

 

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The HAWKs I tried caused so much dusting that I just couldn't take it anymore, not to mention the squeal and screeching!
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thats exactly my issue with the ebc green stuff. and they are tearing my rotors apart.

 

thougt i would just in here and just add the legend gs 92-95 has dualpot calipers.. If i had a five lug then i would run the rotors from that legend as well because they are 5mm thicker than the VTEC calipers.

also when i got my gs calipers, they are a **** load cheaper