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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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So after seeing and liking all sorts of sv650 in this forum as well as at svrider.com i decided to go look at a few locally here this weekend. I will be purchasing one by July as a birthday present to myself. But in the meantime, my fiancee finally gaveinto me having a bike as long as i started on something smaller. I found a 250ninja for dirt cheap, went to buy it and the guy selling it talked all sorts of **** to me about hw it was completely underpowered and how he/ and I would never want to be seen riding it as it was a "girls" bike and whatnot... basically my question/thought here is this.

1. i am still gonna get the bike because i have decided it will be a good learning experience and hopefully teach me a few things about bike limits and whatnot

2. do you all feel like that too-- that someone starting off should be on something better than a 250cc? do eperienced riders really look down on or criticize other pepole based on their 'learning bike'
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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First off, who tries to sell something by talking down on it? The guy sounds like a moron so I would have someone who knows about bikes look at the bike and make sure it is in good shape.

Secondly, the only people who would ever look down on people learning on 250cc bikes and the worst riders who probably cant ride worth ****. I think starting on a 250 is a really smart idea if you have no riding experience. Thats the best thing to do


Also as everyone else always says - gear, motorcycle safety course, insurance
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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I will say it once AGAIN, the sport is Riding motorcycles, not collecting motorcycles... riding is a joy and a freedom no matter what bike it is.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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+1
if you're a true rider, and not some poser POS then you understand it's not what you ride, but THAT you ride. There's a teacher on my campus that's been riding the same Savage single cylinder cruiser for years. He's experienced enough he could be riding a busa with one wheel, but he doesn't. I think he enjoys the riding position and the economy. I don't judge him, i just give him a wave everytime i see him to acknowledge that he's a bamf for riding rain or shine year round in Oregon.
I see people riding ninja 250s all the time and the only thing i think is "hey, they goes a couple level headed responsible riders." Most of the time i see ninja 250 guys wearing full gear, or riding in poor weather as well.
Then i'll see a pack of GSXRs or CBRs and it's a bunch of guys wearing shorts and t-shirts racing each other from light to light. I frown upon them. So you can see, it's not the bike you ride, it's how you ride it.


PS The guy selling that ninja is a freakin moron.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Ok, heres a question I think you should answer if youre on the fence between the SV and the 250. Are the kinda guy that sells and buys cars frequently or sticks with one for a while? Some people are traders, others are keepers. Im a keeper personally, I dont like the hassle of shopping and buying and selling. Thats why I skipped the 250 step. If you like doing all that, then go for it. Youll have fun either way. Seems you got a pretty good idea of whats going on.

PS: Since that seller is so stupid milk him down at least 5 hundred. lol
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdblckSV650S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">+1
if you're a true rider, and not some poser POS then you understand it's not what you ride, but THAT you ride. There's a teacher on my campus that's been riding the same Savage single cylinder cruiser for years. He's experienced enough he could be riding a busa with one wheel, but he doesn't. I think he enjoys the riding position and the economy. I don't judge him, i just give him a wave everytime i see him to acknowledge that he's a bamf for riding rain or shine year round in Oregon.
I see people riding ninja 250s all the time and the only thing i think is "hey, they goes a couple level headed responsible riders." Most of the time i see ninja 250 guys wearing full gear, or riding in poor weather as well.
Then i'll see a pack of GSXRs or CBRs and it's a bunch of guys wearing shorts and t-shirts racing each other from light to light. I frown upon them. So you can see, it's not the bike you ride, it's how you ride it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That is a wonderfull explaination
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is a wonderfull explaination </TD></TR></TABLE>

+1

To the OP:
If you are worried about what you'll be seen as, then don't ride at all and stay away from our sport.

However, if someone looks down upon a rider with a smaller/slower/uglier/whatever-the-case-may-be bike, they are probably a squid who is in the sport purely to "look cool". In which case if youre reading this see above.

I think you'll love the 250, I know i'd be proud to get 60+ mpg and still stick with 90% of the cars on the road.

Edit: I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but why not just start on the sv650? It ispowerful, but its not as bad as the new 600 supersports.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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I like the way this post is heading. If you can get the 250 for cheap, honestly do it. You will likely be able to sell it for as much or more than you pay for it this summer. Riding is riding, it's how you do it, not what you ride. Riding any bike at all will get you accustomed to the use of hand controls, uncomfortable wind noise, and riding without a cage in general. Good luck
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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thanks for the replies-- i already knew all along that i was going to start on the 250 ninja-- it just baffled me when he was talking all this **** about it. I will also buy a sv650 within a month, but think i could gain more experience and would rather risk dropping the $900 bike in the first month rather than a nice sv. I personaly could care less how i apper to others, just wondering what the mentality was from other "real bike" owners. I know a 250 is not much of a bike, but ****, its a start and i would rather learn the smart way... regarding the question as to why I am not using the sv as a beginners bike, from what I've heard/read on svrider, the bike could be a beginer bike, but the throttle response is a bit different and requires a light hand. I would also like to learn some 'bike basics' before taking on a tourqey bike. I think i could learn more about 'bike limits' on a smaller, less powerful bike than on a bike that I know will be a lot more/too powerful to learn on. thanks again for the replies..im new to the sport and am trying to do it the right way
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Get a ZX-14R as your first bike.

Just kidding. I share the same thoughts as rdblckv650s
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