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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX, with minor engine work done to it. I was performing a tune- up: Spark plugs, wires, cap and rotor, fuel filter, oil change, and air filter. We have spark to all 4 plugs coming from the cap and rotor, fuel is flowing, I check all my fuses and all my connections. No check engine light. I have tried everything including checking my timing belt for jump in time and used ethanol to try to start it. I need help asap, I need to get my car on the road sometime soon. Get at me if you have any solutions.
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H. Fletcher
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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are all of your ground wires connected and tightened down?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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are the spark plug wires in the right order?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pythoner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the spark plug wires in the right order?</TD></TR></TABLE>

99% sure it's this
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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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this is a b16 but im pretty positive its the same as single cam too..
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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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thats correct...
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Old May 16, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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never use ether dude , NEVER. if it doesnt start on gas , theres a problem. ether wont help you. were you be any chance rolling the car over with the plug wires not on the plugs while it was apart?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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open the on the filter, let the friend put the IGNITION ON (not starting the motor, only to get the lamps on conrtol table ON)...the gas would have to pure over bolt!

if gas is not puring over the bolt, wait until it starts...then tighten the bolt!

try to start!


if the gas never starts to pure, that the PUMP is gone!
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KLiK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">open the on the filter, let the friend put the IGNITION ON (not starting the motor, only to get the lamps on conrtol table ON)...the gas would have to pure over bolt!

if gas is not puring over the bolt, wait until it starts...then tighten the bolt!

try to start!


if the gas never starts to pure, that the PUMP is gone!</TD></TR></TABLE>

you may want to edit this and check spelling.

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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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What kind of parts did you use? What plugs, what brand other stuff?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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i also think that the spark plug wires are not in the correct order. Go to any auto parts store and buy the book for your car its like 13 dollars.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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You haven't really told us ****, so how do you expect to be helped?

What is included in "minor engine work?" I know a few people who consider sleeved blocks/forged internals "minor engine work."

It's "not starting" - great. How is it not starting? Is it turning over? Is it just dead? I'm hoping you tried boosting it if it's silent, didn't you? You got a spark, peachy, do you got fuel at the rail too? Is it a manual? If so, did you try pop-starting the car?

A) Try to include "how" it's not starting.
B) If it's a manual try pop-starting the clutch (if you don't know what that means google.com can tell you)
C) Do you have fuel at the rail? What defines "fuel is flowing?" did you check the fuel pressure at the filter with the vacuum hose on the FPR unplugged? (fuel pressure for that car should be about 40-47psi)
D) Plugs? Are they black? White? Any color other than normal?
E) What type of plugs, wires, rotor, and cap did you use? (make / model)

I'm sorry if it appears that I'm being an ******* but you need to include more information to get the adequate help.

The most important parts:
A) Is it cranking or is it dead?
B) If it's a manual, did you try pop-starting it? If so, result?

PS: No, you did not try everything, if you tried everything you wouldn't be posting the question that you're posting.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i also think that the spark plug wires are not in the correct order. Go to any auto parts store and buy the book for your car its like 13 dollars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude i posted a fukcin picture lol, how much more help do u need... u and mister spelling bee over there are killin me on this one...

Get a voltage tester, and check all ur connections on ur ignition harness.... You said all your fuses were good but that doesnt mean a wire couldnt have fried "trust me on this one".. If its nothing basic and simple, like you said you've checked all the minor things, than chances are you're gonna have to do a little bit of actual work to try and find a solution...
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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i saw the picture. but i still think he should get the book. its will help help diagnose things down the road.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Thanks for all the postings, I've moved down to Baltimore to start work, with my car still in PA. I'll be heading back up to PA this weekend to hopefully get it running. I'll let you all know how I do and if I need further help.

PS " Not trying to be an *******" haha right

- H. Fletcher
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KLiK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">open the on the filter, let the friend put the IGNITION ON (not starting the motor, only to get the lamps on conrtol table ON)...the gas would have to pure over bolt!

if gas is not puring over the bolt, wait until it starts...then tighten the bolt!

try to start!


if the gas never starts to pure, that the PUMP is gone!</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF are u talking about!
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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you probably put the rotor on backwards, yes you can put it on backwards it goes both ways. First thing you wana do is flip it the other way and try to start it.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcphatchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you probably put the rotor on backwards, yes you can put it on backwards it goes both ways. First thing you wana do is flip it the other way and try to start it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The rotor can only go one one way!
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Old May 25, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcphatchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you probably put the rotor on backwards, yes you can put it on backwards it goes both ways. First thing you wana do is flip it the other way and try to start it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hehe.. anyways i vote for wrong order on the plug wires.. it'll look like the picture but the distribs on them are angled and not straight like the b-series.. number 1 will be at a 9 o'clock position..
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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The verdict is in and I got it running... turns out Ignition coil went bad... I flipped out and now plan to go fored induction!!! any helpful tips or suggestions? I've been researching Edlebrock's bolt on turbos... Let me know what you think or anything you've heard. Thanks.
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