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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Default .paul and I are graduates!

.paul and I spent a romantic weekend together taking the MSF course through Apex Cycle Education this past weekend at the GMU campus.

Pros: perfect weekend. fun little 250's to throw around. ended everyday early so we had time to do other things. The damn DMV waiver is finally in my posession.

Cons: Cost ($349). They are serious when they mean BASIC rider course ("everyone, this is the brake lever"). One instructor was so against sport bikes it was upsetting. (he owned a new harley "ultra classic" that he thought was the damn ****.)

Notes: I counted 5 or so crashes all by the girls, including one chick going totally off course into the grass/brush. One girl got completely kicked out saturday and forced to leave. Both paul and I lost 0 points on the final test.

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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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You and .paul are just now taking the MSF course?

Better late than never

Here in Tennessee we get insurance discounts for taking it, what ab00t Virginia?
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sup gurl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You and .paul are just now taking the MSF course?

Better late than never

Here in Tennessee we get insurance discounts for taking it, what ab00t Virginia?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on the insurance company.

ANd yeah, we took awhile, but we got it done. And not to be a dick or anything, but i didnt learn much if anything. In fact I think i was a little upset with them in how much they stressed the rear brake usage. I slid the rear SEVERAL times in front of them and they just didnt care and said it was good i held the rear brake for the whole slide.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sup gurl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here in Tennessee we get insurance discounts for taking it, what ab00t Virginia?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The instructor of my class was talking about that. He said somehow it doesnt work out to be a discount with state farm. I can't remember the details but they screw you in the end.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cons: Cost ($349). They are serious when they mean BASIC rider course ("everyone, this is the brake lever"). One instructor was so against sport bikes it was upsetting. (he owned a new harley "ultra classic" that he thought was the damn ****.)


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Wow it is really expensive for you guys. We pay 20$ which you can take back at the end of the class if you want.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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did you ride your 07 RR there?



I also hate how they stress the rear god damn brake so much. I hardly use it. Even that Keith Code doesn't recommend using the rear brake at all.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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yeah, they kicked a woman out in my class too cuz she sucked, and she went off on the instructors.

I had a bald dude with a beard. he road a honda goldwing, and a hippie.

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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mjfan12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, they kicked a woman out in my class too cuz she sucked, and she went off on the instructors.

I had a bald dude with a beard. he road a honda goldwing, and a hippie.

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He rode a hippie? I guess that's what free love's all about...
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:05 AM
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curious why you two decided to take it? My instructor was the same way and always brought up his harley in conversation
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ...rohit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">curious why you two decided to take it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because they'd rather spend a lot of and take the class on short notice instead of planning ahead and spending $50 for the MSF class
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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I decided to take it because a right handed U turn inside two lanes is BS.

If i had a smaller bike I would have just taken the DMV test.

As for the APEX course, if you never ever ever have ridden a bike, this is great, and it is exactly what it is made for.

How some of the people passed, I have no idea. I fear for their lives once they hit a main road.

Instructors were funny and kept the class entertaining.

Rear braking IMHO was a little over used. They praised when I was sliding the rear while braking, and they did not mind the endo. Granted I was on a Dual purpose bike, so I was entertaining myself.

Meh all I can be happy for is that certificate, calling the insurance company trying to get a discount, and my kick stand plate.

Brian and I had fun laughing at what they called trail braking, engine braking, and some other things.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Because they'd rather spend a lot of and take the class on short notice instead of planning ahead and spending $50 for the MSF class </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would have paid someone to take it too
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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$349?!?!?!?!?

You guys could've each paid me $250 and I'd have let you both borrow a friend's EX500 for DMV's riding test.

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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:49 AM
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Go go gadget bling!
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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And to celebrate..


"Thank You for purchasing a Track Event.
We look forward to seeing you at the track!"

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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And to celebrate..


"Thank You for purchasing a Track Event.
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Sweet! What date and where?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Summit this saturday. "I"group.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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I meant to say one guy rode a goldwing, and the other instructor looked like a hippie.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Summit this saturday. "I"group.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice! See you there
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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sweet you will be there WILL I AM ?

Pit with us?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .paul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sweet you will be there WILL I AM ?

Pit with us?</TD></TR></TABLE>

fru

I'll prob be pitted with some .com people, but if not I'll look for you (you'll be there before me - I'm always late )
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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I have never been really on time, i always rush.

.com gangstars!

i will be with the .net hustlers
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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .paul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will be with the .net hustlers </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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i should go take the MSF in my race leathers
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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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we were talking about me coming in with full gear for the last day

this was the bike I had, it was fun, makes me want a dual sport

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Old May 14, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .paul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we were talking about me coming in with full gear for the last day

this was the bike I had, it was fun, makes me want a dual sport

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When I took the course, I got stuck with one of these



They're fun until you can scrape the pegs without trying too hard...


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