My mods now are: K&N air filter, ractive short ram intake, skunk2 intake manifold, aem fuel rail, bosch platinum 4 plugs, bosch plug wires, shaved head, heddman 4-2-1 header, stock cat, 2.25in cat-back exhaust with a magnaflow muffler, zex 6.7Lb. racing flywheel, xtd high pressure clutch cover, exedy stage 1 clutch disc, heavy duty axles. I dont want to swap motors until this one goes boom, then when that happens I'll buy another single cam motor like the D16 vtec not the zc cause thats dual cam.

I want about 140-160hp, I know I cant get there with just bolt-ons. I plan on getting a custom cam, cam gear and hondata s100. Do you guys think this is an obtainable power gain or do I have to get more stuff? I want to use the hondata but dont know if there any others out there that I could use. Could yall throw me some links to others as well? Thanks for the input!


Modified by mightyjoecivic at 1:27 PM 5/13/2007

 

Thats just about impossible, its a D15 USDM single cam. Boost is the only way your going to achieve that out of a single cam.

 

that's a REALLY lofty goal. REALLY LOFTY. The rods on b7 are weak, and really, why spend so much money on an engine you expect to blow? Everything you have now will swap over to a z6 or y8. Don't worry about a cam until you have a motor in there that you know you'll want to keep.
Something to consider would be a silly high compression motor. Also look into carbs. Seriously.

 

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My roommate has a mini-me with 12:1 compression putting down 155whp untuned. Boost? Not needed. Plus the B7 would cry if he boosted it. lol

 

which vtec motor would be better to start out with, D16Z6 or D16Y8? I guess I'm asking which one has more power to start from.

 

I'd go Z6 since you're already using an OBD1 setup...

 

about how much horsepower do they make? 125 or so?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mightyjoecivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">about how much horsepower do they make? 125 or so?</TD></TR></TABLE>

in real life, prob like 80-90

 

get a b16 and call it good... JDM ones have 170hp

 

b16s are only fast if you boost them. ive kept up with basic mods b16s in my mostly stock d16y7 hatch. oh and op, not all zc's are dual cam. sohc zc vtec is the jdm equivalent to the z6. so is the jdm d16a vtec. just buy the other engine you want and build that on the side and swap it in when your current engine pops

 

Ahh...

Another thread debating about which motor is better.

HT just keeps getting better and better.

 

I want to stay with the single cam, so I will buy a D16Z6 and take my current mods and swap them to the Z6. Now, for the pcm. What pcm will work with this motor? The p28?

 

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PCM?

The P28 is the correct ECU for the z6 motor.

 

thats going to cost like 12 grand

 

Plus its only 8 valve so it makes it that much harder.

 

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OP, your goals are unrealistic and not cost effective by any means.

Unless you're trying to prove a point, do what makes sense and take all those **** parts off that motor, swap it for a y8 or zc and boost it.

b16's have 170hp alright. But, Once that gets to the ground you migth have 125 whp and double digit torque numbers.

With that n/a d-series you're likely to spend $3000+ to get 160+ whp.

With 1500 you could put down 220whp and actually have torque and a MORE reliable daily setup.

And this is bench racing in my book.


Modified by ek forever guy at 5:21 PM 5/13/2007

 

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b16's have 170hp my ***. Once that gets to the ground you might have 125 whp and double digit torque numbers.
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Didn't say anything about whp. I simply stated that it's theoretically comes with 170hp.

Obviously mightyjoecivic isn't talking about whp since he thought a z6 makes 125hp.

 

get a vtec head and some zc pistons pm7 u should be around there.

 

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no true, the d15b7 is 16 valve

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OP, your goals are unrealistic and not cost effective by any means.

Unless you're trying to prove a point, do what makes sense and take all those **** parts off that motor, swap it for a y8 or zc and boost it.

b16's have 170hp alright. But, Once that gets to the ground you migth have 125 whp and double digit torque numbers.

With that n/a d-series you're likely to spend $3000+ to get 160+ whp.

With 1500 you could put down 220whp and actually have torque and a MORE reliable daily setup.

And this is bench racing in my book.


Modified by ek forever guy at 5:21 PM 5/13/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

i always wondered what you drove.....

I would say go with a B but thats not an option for you..

PG6 pistons are the ones you want with the same rods, bolt on the a Z6 head and run a p28 on chrome. PM me if you have any questions

 

I drive a 00 dx hatch with a y8 tranny, Skunk2 short shifter/****.

Fart can came on it, looking to be replaced with an OEM muffler.

I like long walks on the beach, reading books, and scoping out college freshmen.

 

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D15B7

* Found in:
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic CX (Canadian model)
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic DX/LX
o 1993-1995 Honda Civic del Sol S
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic LSi Coupe (European Market)
+ Displacement : 1493 cm3
+ Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 84.5 mm
+ Compression : 9.2:1
+ Power : 102 hp @ 5900 rpm & 98 ft·lbf @ 5000 rpm
+ Valvetrain : SOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
+ Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI


My bad, thinking of the b6

Thanks

 

i'd have to say jackson racing supercharger

 

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agree....had one come to the shop but on a jdm d15b....made 181whp 130ft tq on the blower alone.....also had 75hp wet shot...made 229whp 202ft tq....blew me away the power it made.
he is supposed to be taking it to sac raceway on some slicks to see what it can do...hopefully it holds up....its a bone stock motor.

 

wow, a whole 181whp on stock internals.

Most of the turbo d-series guys are making 220+

For less money, more tuneability.