Ok so clutch disc, pressure plate, an flywheel are all fine "along with the bearings in between" and now i checked my cmc and slave an neither are leaking.. Ive bled the system numerous numerous times and still have barely any pressure at all... Its like the very last 1/2" catches just enough to barely get it in gear...???? Nothing is leaking and nothing is visibly broken... But however my clutch pedal about 2 months dropped like 2 inches and from what i can see, my clutch pedal spring is still in there so thats not what made it drop... my CMC and Slave are both new within past year, is there a chance that the CMC went bad an caused the pressure to just drop like that an is my issue at having no pressure..??

 

bump, because my ??? is more important than all the other ???'s right now...

 

::waiting for pdiggity to chime in on this one::

 

Ive had this problem before. Sometimes no fluid has to be leaking for there to be lack of pressure. I had a bad seal on the M/C, and it woudlnt hold pressure for some odd reason, even tho it wasnt leaking any visible fluids. You need to replace the Master Cylindar unfortunatly, that may be your problem.

 

thanks mike... mines under LLW from autozone so i just have to take this one off an bring it back to autozone to get my replacement just wanted to hear some second voices on wether or not it might be my CMC....

 

Sometimes you need to move the rod on the master cylinder depending on the clutch you get. Usually when MC go out youll see leaks inside the cabin and when you pump youll see air bubbles in the fluid reservoir

 

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man...has it come to this?? lol I dont know everything!
Hmm maybe i should take a h-t break?

I would try messing with the clutch rod adjustment
Just crawl under the dash, loosen the nut, spin the rod until the pedal engages higher (just dont go too high or it can engage by itself and you'll just spin the disc).
If that doesnt work (and you will have to drive it for a little while) Id say hell with it and change the mc

 

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man...has it come to this?? lol I dont know everything!
Hmm maybe i should take a h-t break?

I would try messing with the clutch rod adjustment
Just crawl under the dash, loosen the nut, spin the rod until the pedal engages higher (just dont go too high or it can engage by itself and you'll just spin the disc).
If that doesnt work (and you will have to drive it for a little while) Id say hell with it and change the mc</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha naa it just seems lately like uve had the answer to all my issues lol....

well update on this one... i got under there and there are no leaks at all, but when i pulled my pedal back up to where its supposed to be it like sucks back down right to the pressure point... lol..... WTF..!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its like an inch or more from the adjuster already..... ima snap a pic in a minute so u see what im talking about...

 

i have the same problem right now just happened a couple days ago. im just gonna replace the master and slave cylinder and see what happens and hopefully thats the case.

 

yeah well im taking both off today and replacing both, ill post an update later on wether or not im back pipin again or if betsy's still sidelined haha...

 

i can switch gears perfectly with the car off... so theres no chance it could be my synchros right..??

 

gotta love LLW

 

yeah dude tell me about it... i mean a lot of people do argue and **** an say u cant trust secondary places "autozone, discount, napa" but like 90% of their **** is lifetime warranty "trust me i used to work there haha" so im sayin if something does go out at least i kno i have a free replacement waiting for me... haha...

but does anyone kno if shifting with car off means synchros are still good..??

 

may be a clogged line or callapsed line and pedel hight will effect the pedel pressure i just did mine 2 days ago took some time to adjust it seeing the the smallest movement of the master rod can put the pedel to hard or soft just do it a quarter turns. 1 more thing if it is the line just grab 1 from auto zone and run it dirrect from master to slave

 

i just had a friend come over and help me bleed the slave cylinder... the fluid is flowing through the system fine but the slave cylinder is pushing the shift fork maybe 1/4 inch at the most and its making a squeaking sound everytime i press in the clutch... so slave is squeaking and barely moving upon pressing in the clutch... the shift fork is on good too so its not that... does that mean the slave is bad..? its not leaking or anything just barely goes in at all...

 

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but does anyone kno if shifting with car off means synchros are still good..??</TD></TR></TABLE>

It means that the problems are with the clutch and not the transmission.

 

not true it may not be the clutch like i said it could be a callapsed line that could cause shyt pressure same as a brake line. and as far as not seeing it leak my friends accord had no pedal pressure at all checked all the lines no fluid leaking out anywere so i took new line ran it stra8 from the master to the slave bleed it and the car was fine. sometimes theres leaks in the line not big enough for fluid but enough for air may want to run a new line that cost $5 over taking your trany off for nothing

 

whats that little valve thats between the master and slave cylinder do anyways..?? what does it change when you just run a straight hard line..??

 

Modified by De_tour at 4:36 PM 5/21/2007

 

yeah dude ur lucky.... i took all that off last week "check out my DIY rear main seal writeup".... but after i took off tranny, pressure plate, clutch, an flywheel... nothing was loose, nothing was broken, everything that was supposed to be firm was firm an everything that was supposed to spin or have play, spun and had play.... I just figured if it was my clutch or clutch springs, when i took off my tranny i was gonna have peices fallin everywhere but when i took off the tranny everything looked fine...

 

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It means that the problems are with the clutch and not the transmission.</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicsi401 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not true it may not be the clutch like i said it could be a callapsed line that could cause shyt pressure same as a brake line. and as far as not seeing it leak my friends accord had no pedal pressure at all checked all the lines no fluid leaking out anywere so i took new line ran it stra8 from the master to the slave bleed it and the car was fine. sometimes theres leaks in the line not big enough for fluid but enough for air may want to run a new line that cost $5 over taking your trany off for nothing</TD></TR></TABLE>

What I said is correct. If it was a transmission problem, it wouldn't matter if the car was running or not, it would still be hard or impossible to shift into gear. That's how you tell the difference between a tranny problem or a clutch problem. The clutch includes the hydraulic/linkage system.


Modified by 00Red_SiR at 12:02 PM 5/19/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_SOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah dude ur lucky.... i took all that off last week "check out my DIY rear main seal writeup".... but after i took off tranny, pressure plate, clutch, an flywheel... nothing was loose, nothing was broken, everything that was supposed to be firm was firm an everything that was supposed to spin or have play, spun and had play.... I just figured if it was my clutch or clutch springs, when i took off my tranny i was gonna have peices fallin everywhere but when i took off the tranny everything looked fine...</TD></TR></TABLE>

You may still have a bad pressure plate.

 

but if its firm, and all the teeth are in tact, how can u tell if its bad..?? no springs are missing or nothing...

 

bump for my pressure plate genius's.

 

ok so i had a friend get in the car an pull the clutch pedal all the way out push it all the way in, but in a pumping motion so i could record what was happening on the other end... this is a lil vid clip i took, u can see that there is like no pressure on the shift fork... maybe this might start to pin point what is wrong and whats not wrong..

http://s21.photobucket.com/alb...6.flv