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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Im shopping around for a rear upper strut bar. They have generic ones on ebay for like 50 dollars buy it now but they also have brand name such as DC or Tein for 100+ dollars. Does it really make a difference to buy the brand name products? I know it matters when it comes to pretty much every other part for our cars but to me these seem to all be the same thing. Thanks.

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$50 generic


$130 TEIN


Same thing double the price in my opinion. Open for any and all comments.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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u get what u pay for
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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dont get either. get a non-flexing strut bar like the mugen/mugen replicas
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JustHere4ADay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u get what u pay for</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for your opinion but in no way did that answer anything i asked.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4F CHR!S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont get either. get a non-flexing strut bar like the mugen/mugen replicas </TD></TR></TABLE>

so bang for the buck this would be #1 choice over any brand name flexing strut bar?

http://www.importhorizon.com/m....html

mugen replica.....69 dollars

edit: just realized it says that you have to drill holes into your strut towers to mount the rear strut bar? wtf is up with that....
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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After playing around with this chassis quite a bit, I honestly don't think you need a rear upper strut bar.

The only one that might be worth it is the Mugen and where it mounts in the chassis. Those ones that span the struts and fit right against the flat trunk--worthless IMO.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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i had a c pillar mugen rear and a megan rear. it definately stiffened up quite a bit but thought it was over kill so i removed the megan one (bottom most attatched to struts) and did not notice a difference. so imo go with the mugen real or replica rear and i just kept the c pillar one for looks.

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Old May 12, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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as long as the ebay ones aren't made out of crappy metal, it doesn't matter which one you get. a bar is a bar, if its solid its stronger than a hollow one, hollow ones are lighter. you really only need the front strut bar and the rear strut bar, since those are the only ones that attach to your strut. all other bars are for looks/strengthening the chassis
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Old May 13, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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you really don't need a strut your stock one is just fine. not like your going to gain 10 hp from a strut. IMO it's pointless to get a strut if you already have one stock makes no sense.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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since when did the rsx come with a stock rear strut tower brace?

Not every mod is intended to add hp. Do some research you will find that strut bars do in fact increase the cars handling ability in most cases.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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the stock "strut" bar only strengthens the chassis. in no way does it improve your handling
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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IMHO the only bar that is better than the stock bar is a Carbing front strut tower bar. Reason being is that it still mounts to the firewall, mounts to the strut towers, and offers a master cylinder brace. Otherwise the stock bar does the same and better than all the other aftermarket bars out there. The only other front strut tower bar mounted to the firewall was the Cusco and then they changed the design.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JustHere4ADay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u get what u pay for</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VBPType-S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thanks for your opinion but in no way did that answer anything i asked.</TD></TR></TABLE>


haha i would've loved to hear that in person instead of reading it VBP..haha man i really "laughed out loud" for that one..ohhh honda-tech where have you been all my life.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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i bent one of those replicas, it started to rattle and stuff, so i went with a OEM ITR one and never had a problem, this was a on dc2.

Do it right the first time, do you really wanna put cheap parts in your car?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NTCustoms &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the stock "strut" bar only strengthens the chassis. in no way does it improve your handling</TD></TR></TABLE>

o really?

"A strut bar or strut brace is a mostly aftermarket car suspension accessory used in conjunction with MacPherson struts on monocoque or unibody chassis to provide extra strength between the strut towers.

With a MacPherson strut suspension system where the spring and shock absorber are combined in the one suspension unit, the entire vertical suspension load is transmitted to the top of the vehicle's strut tower, unlike a double wishbone suspension where the spring and shock absorber may share the load separately. In general terms, a strut tower in a monocoque chassis is a reinforced portion of the inner wheel well and is not necessarily directly connected to the main chassis rails. For this reason there is inherent flex within the strut towers relative to the chassis rails.

A strut bar is designed to reduce this strut tower flex by tying two parallel strut towers together. This transmits the load of each strut tower during cornering via tension and compression of the strut bar which shares the load between both towers and reduces chassis flex.

A direct result of this is improved chassis rigidity (similar to that gained from a lower tie bar); hence, <U>the understeer is reduced</U>, tire wear improved and metal fatigue is greatly reduced in the strut tower area."

Stock or aftermarket strut bars will strengthin the chassis which inturn IMPROVES HANDLING like i already said. So you can say you're sorry now.

Im not contemplating buying a strut bar off ebay i just wanted to know what the difference between say a 200 dollar bar and a 50 dollar bar is. So with that said, No i do not want cheap parts on my car.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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I have an ebay upper strut bar on my RSX... git it for $19 shipped. Pshhh can't complain here!
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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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the improved rigidity from the stock strut bar is still uncomparable when contrasted with the rigidity of an aftermarket strut bar that attaches to the actual struts itself. i have a comptech and it attaches to both the chassis and the struts, so i did notice an improvement in how the car handled
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VBPType-S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since when did the rsx come with a stock rear strut tower brace?

Not every mod is intended to add hp. Do some research you will find that strut bars do in fact increase the cars handling ability in most cases. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thought we were talking about the front strut.. were we not?

You do some research if you're so determined about which one to get..

Depending your application and what you're trying to accomplish is what you want for your car. Most people are looking for the HP gains or do it for just looks...and rare occasions you'll find the people doing the actual track time attack and what not. Maybe you should specify what you're trying to do instead of asking a general question.


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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VBPType-S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

o really?

"A strut bar or strut brace is a mostly aftermarket car suspension accessory used in conjunction with MacPherson struts on monocoque or unibody chassis to provide extra strength between the strut towers.

With a MacPherson strut suspension system where the spring and shock absorber are combined in the one suspension unit, the entire vertical suspension load is transmitted to the top of the vehicle's strut tower, unlike a double wishbone suspension where the spring and shock absorber may share the load separately. In general terms, a strut tower in a monocoque chassis is a reinforced portion of the inner wheel well and is not necessarily directly connected to the main chassis rails. For this reason there is inherent flex within the strut towers relative to the chassis rails.

A strut bar is designed to reduce this strut tower flex by tying two parallel strut towers together. This transmits the load of each strut tower during cornering via tension and compression of the strut bar which shares the load between both towers and reduces chassis flex.

A direct result of this is improved chassis rigidity (similar to that gained from a lower tie bar); hence, <U>the understeer is reduced</U>, tire wear improved and metal fatigue is greatly reduced in the strut tower area."

Stock or aftermarket strut bars will strengthin the chassis which inturn IMPROVES HANDLING like i already said. So you can say you're sorry now.

Im not contemplating buying a strut bar off ebay i just wanted to know what the difference between say a 200 dollar bar and a 50 dollar bar is. So with that said, No i do not want cheap parts on my car.
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so where'd you copy and paste this from cuz if you knew all this.. you wouldn't be asking the question of what the difference is between a cheapo to expensive one. Do your own research if you keep putting every one else's opinion down.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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its a metal bar if its solid it is strong if its hollo it is not strong.. are you still with me .. ok now if a cheapo bar is made out of quality metal and is sold it will be fine.. if it is a chepo and it is not strong it will suck.. people buy name brand **** so they can put it in there signitures.. iv had megan and tsudo stuff forever and with a little love you can make any of these products work..

but seriously were did you copy and paste that from lol
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Old May 15, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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no **** i copied and pasted it thats why i put it in quotes. I got it from wikipedia.

im not putting anyones OPINION down, someone stated that strut bars DID NOT improve handling and i provided facts that it did. I am doing my own research. What do you want me to do buy both strut bars and see whats better? So once again
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Old May 15, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cuz if you knew all this.. you wouldn't be asking the question of what the difference is between a cheapo to expensive one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

also where in that statement i posted from wikipedia does it explain the difference between a cheap strut bar and a name brand one? Dude seriously think before you post.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Last time i checked quotes are ended with the listing of where you got them or they came from.. those are quotes. I can put quotes on damn near anything... but this is beside the point. If there is no research on it then you may have no choice either go that route and buy both or just take a guess.
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also where in that statement i posted from wikipedia does it explain the difference between a cheap strut bar and a name brand one? Dude seriously think before you post.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Again if you quoted something there is a listing of where the quote came from which you failed to mention. So basicly you tried to make it seem like you wrote it, tis why i made that comment. NO ONE is a mind reader... wait... nope my telepathy network is still down
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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well this thread officially went to ****.....thanks risk. might as well be locked
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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it only went to **** because of you. i stated that the STOCK strut bar does nothing. i didn't say strut bars in general did nothing. and wikipedia isn't a very knowledgable site as anyone can put down any kind of information there.
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