i know my form still needs improvement



had a blast! going back for level 2 as soon as i can!

 

Lookin' good out there!

Which technique do you think benefitted you the most? And which, the least?

For me, the most beneficial was the quick turn. The least was probably the initial one, where you are forced to ride around with no brakes.

 

i benefitted most from the turning exercises on the skid pad actually. i couldn't believe how much i was struggling with turning the bike because of my weight distribution. least and scariest was the no brakes drill.. almost ran off the track lol. but i still learned quite a bit from it

 

Hahaha, yeah, I got a little dirty a few times from that no-brakes drill. One of the girls yelled at me twice for touching my brakes. I didn't mind though - she was kinda cute.

 

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That always helps

 

for looking in the correct direction

 

Curious, do they offer this course on the east coast? also whats the average cost? You see anyone with a 250 ninja out there?

 

They actually provide the bike, I believe

 

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Nah, just trackdays with NESBA. I think .RJ has either taken this class or the Cornerspeed class, which I believe are down at VIR

 

Yeah they do the Cali SBK school at VIR, Pocono, Mid-Ohio, Loudon, and Watkins Glen. Cost is about $420-$450 a day if you use your own bike, $620-650 with the school ZX-6R's. I'll probably do level 2 and 3 at the end of this year when they come back around. I wanted to go this month but work kinda got in the way.

I'd recommend renting a school bike. You can learn on a Ninja 250 but you're going to have people blasting by you at warp speed.

 

Edit - JMU is faster than me.

 

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They CAN provide the bike if you want to rent one. Otherwise, you can bring your own at nearly half the price.

 

Or if you have a friend with a shinny rc51, you can ask them to borrow it.... Just tell him your going to go riding down by the beach for the day

 

Is it required to have a full suit? can you have a jacket and leather pants with knee sliders?

 

TUP... nice dude, very nice

 

If you have a two piece I think they have to be zipped together.

 

post some sites/links to where riders can read the regulations, and sign up for trackday. I know here in cali there is a few...like zoomzoom...

http://www.z2trackdays.com

 

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Bike rental is ~$200. You can barely run your own bike for that cost on track per day (tires, gas, etc).

 

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Tires most people on this board need last at least 4 trackdays and you'll go through maybe $20 in gas depending on what track you're at. So it's $130 extra to ride an unfamiliar bike that I'm pretty sure you still have to pay to repair if you crash it.

I highly recommend Jason Pridmore's STAR School:

http://www.starmotorcycle.com/

 

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Tires most people on this board need last at least 4 trackdays and you'll go through maybe $20 in gas depending on what track you're at. So it's $130 extra to ride an unfamiliar bike that I'm pretty sure you still have to pay to repair if you crash it.
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Your damage liability is up to $700 with the SBK school bikes - wad the thing into a tin can and thats all you're out for... unlike your street bike.

Tires are going to be $300-400 mounted, Gas on track, wear/tear on the bike, extra oil changes... true, you can spread theses costs out but when you take the aggregate costs and even them out per track day its tough to come in under $200.

 

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Your damage liability is up to $700 with the SBK school bikes - wad the thing into a tin can and thats all you're out for... unlike your street bike.

Tires are going to be $300-400 mounted, Gas on track, wear/tear on the bike, extra oil changes... true, you can spread theses costs out but when you take the aggregate costs and even them out per track day its tough to come in under $200.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you sign up for the STAR school you can get some Dunlop Qualifers for $200 so it's well under $400 mounted

I've ridden 4 hard days on my last set of qualifers so far at a very fast intermediate pace and they've held up very well.

I guess for some people renting the bike does make sense because I can see even just the the relief that you're only liable for $700 is enough incentive to make people go to the track and actually not be worrying the entire time.

 

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If you sign up for the STAR school you can get some Dunlop Qualifers for $200 so it's well under $400 mounted

I've ridden 4 hard days on my last set of qualifers so far at a very fast intermediate pace and they've held up very well.

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How would you compare the Qualifiers to the standard Pilot Powers? STAR and CASBS offer the same deal on those Dunlops and for that price I am really tempted to try them out but havent heard anything about them, well except for when Jason/Kieth were doing thier litttle sales promo .

And to the OP. CASBS is such a blast, not to mention the improvement in skills that comes along with it. Who was your riding coach?

 

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How would you compare the Qualifiers to the standard Pilot Powers? STAR and CASBS offer the same deal on those Dunlops and for that price I am really tempted to try them out but havent heard anything about them, well except for when Jason/Kieth were doing thier litttle sales promo .

And to the OP. CASBS is such a blast, not to mention the improvement in skills that comes along with it. Who was your riding coach?

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Qualifers and PP are about equal in grip IMO. Some people say that the PP have a more triangular profile so they turn in faster but the qualifiers felt better on the brakes to me. Pridmore says he likes them better then the 208's and says the qualifers are excellent tires. Him and Richie Alexander were smoking around Loudon on them pretty easy at about novice race winning pace, that's pretty good for a street tire. They're both stupid fast but they were doing some crazy **** on those tires that gave me a ton of confidence. Rich is a friend of mine so I wasn't just getting the sales pitch he really likes the tire especially for a trackday pace.

 

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Qualifers and PP are about equal in grip IMO. Some people say that the PP have a more triangular profile so they turn in faster but the qualifiers felt better on the brakes to me. Pridmore says he likes them better then the 208's and says the qualifers are excellent tires. Him and Richie Alexander were smoking around Loudon on them pretty easy at about novice race winning pace, that's pretty good for a street tire. They're both stupid fast but they were doing some crazy **** on those tires that gave me a ton of confidence. Rich is a friend of mine so I wasn't just getting the sales pitch he really likes the tire especially for a trackday pace. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Right on, I figured at my level it would come down to personal preference. Ima have to pick me up some for Level 2 in June. Maybe I'll do a little comparo or something.

Watching Jason and crew rip around is deff an eye opener! I went to STAR out here in CA at Buttonwillow and was blown away with how fast JP was up to speed, like meaning his out lap was something like more than 10 seconds better than what the fastest advanced students were doing. This being at a track he had not been to in years! He is a retired pro afterall... Did you get a chance to do a two up ride with JP? Freaking AMAZING!