dont know much about muscle cars and this guy wants to run at the track

what power/how quick do you think he runs?

1971 malibu 400 single head light


454 motor
4 bolt block line-honed
-th400 3 speed auto
-stuffed with .271 domed pistons.
-049 heads shaved down ten-thousandths.
-10-1 comp.
-Modest comp cams cam 219/225 duration/ .507/.531 lift.
- Forged internals.
-Edelbrock performer rpm intake.
-edelbrock thunder series 800cfm carb
-electric fan
-stock 14" wheels and tires
-1968 chevelle 4 piston calipers
-4:11 gears in the rear
-14" street tires
-painless wiring harness
-wagon rear suspension
-hooker headers
-2.5 inch exhaust all the way back with walmart tips
-full interior
-the kid is pretty big maybe 250-270 lbs?
-sunpro autozone guages
-sony xplod headunit and 4 speakers
-bench seats
-full interior
-chrome alternator head shield
-alot of random jegs parts
-eldel brock round air filter
-no rear shocks (never had em since high school)
-i belive he has a sedan gauge cluster from his parts car, and he has both bumpers from his parts car
-motor was pulled from a early 90's surbuban (he said it has a forged crank stock)

more info becuase you guys asked, its not my car but ill give you as much as i can since ive seen the progress of this car, and alot of random information since i dont know much about muscle cars

he claimed his cam timing is retarded but i dont belive him


Modified by plz turn off trial user at 2:48 AM 5/8/2007


Modified by plz turn off trial user at 2:55 AM 5/8/2007


Modified by plz turn off trial user at 2:56 AM 5/8/2007

 

mid 13's? Possibly faster depending on rear end gear.

I don't know a lot about BBC's

 

depending on alot of factors this car is anywhere from 10.80 - to a 10.0 car on a tire. what heads are on there? ported ? spacer? size tire? what bore stroke? the more he has the range i gave will decrease into a faster time. thats a big motor for a malibu! i like it!

1967 malibu is my street car i think is one beautiful ride.

we have a 56&55 belair with a 383 big tire and a th400. we go deep into the 10's with it. 150 direct port as well. 11.8 on the motor all day bracket car

 

idk ive known him since high school and these are all the mods he has ever told/shown me he has done he used to have a 3-0- something in there i think it was a 3-0-7 or a 3-0-2 i dunno but he bought the chevy 454 from a surburban from a junkyard

thats all the info i have (i modifed the priginal post to include some more info)

 

a 454 1970 ss is a 13.9 second car, so im guessing he isnt musch faster than that, it had about the same compression ratio also

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrParks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">depending on alot of factors this car is anywhere from 10.80 - to a 10.0 car on a tire. what heads are on there? ported ? spacer? size tire? what bore stroke? the more he has the range i gave will decrease into a faster time. thats a big motor for a malibu! i like it!</TD></TR></TABLE>

If that car goes anywhere near the 10s my stock crx goes 11s.

1. 14" street tires = gay
2. Edelbrock carb = Junk
3. Stock heads milled a little, sounds like oval port heads = Junk
4. 71 bu isn't exactly light.

Having no rear shocks and autozone gauges makes me feel even more like the car's a 14-15 second turd.


Honestly I doubt the car will get out of the 14s.

 

Sounds like a beater motor. Big inches doesn't mean fast

 

12 sec car depending on head the 454 in the suburbans where weak but they are tourque monsters no hp they are like the old 454 ss pick ups

 

this is his motor if yo can tell what heads are on it from the motor







Modified by plz turn off trial user at 6:53 PM 5/8/2007

 

the 14 inch street tires tell me its going to go in the mid to high 15's

 

if he went and gotten slicks i think he wouldnt be that much quicker either lol

 

LOL.

I doubt that turd will hook if it doesn't even have shocks. Bouncin' down the 1320'.

Is this guy a hillbilly by chance?


Also, I looked into the heads. They are an oval port...They're one of the better power producing oval port heads, but they still really need bigger valves and head work to make any 'good' power.

 

I ran a 6.5 8th mile in our old 454 we ran old closed chambered heads but had a compression of 13:1. a 454 done right should be a solid 10 sec all motor car no problems. the 572 we run now on the other hand i was on a 6.0 8th mile on motor foot braking the car stalling around 1800rpm with the launch with a 1.27 60 foot. This year its on the trans brake and a 200 shot should be good enough for high 8's in the qr

 

what year was the suburban? the TPI trucks have whats called "peanut ports" because the intake ports are so small. and those heads suck!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jason703Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ran a 6.5 8th mile in our old 454 we ran old closed chambered heads but had a compression of 13:1. a 454 done right should be a solid 10 sec all motor car no problems. the 572 we run now on the other hand i was on a 6.0 8th mile on motor foot braking the car stalling around 1800rpm with the launch with a 1.27 60 foot. This year its on the trans brake and a 200 shot should be good enough for high 8's in the qr</TD></TR></TABLE>

is this one done right? this one only has 10-1 comp ratio

 

sounds to be a 13 sec car but thats imo

 

if he is running street tires like you said (depending on dot drag radials or normal every day street tires) id say any where from a high 11 (his suspension sucks) to low 12 to a mid 13 sec car. that all depends on his tire combo.

 

In the 70's my dad had a 69 maro with a stock 454 big block in it and it ran 11.0's. and in a 70's Monte Carlro it went 11.5's and these car where used to drive us to school.

With a big block it doesnt take much to make a car run if you know what your doing.

 

werent camaros unibody's that were siginifcantly lighter than a chevelle ?

 

Full interior, full weight... no real headwork on the truck heads, unknown stall, no power adder, street tire, junk carb, weak cam... I give it a mid 13's pass if he gets a good hole shot.

Hell the 1970 chevy chevelle (right before the emissions killed the muscle cars) with the higher output 454 (450hp/ 500 ft lbs. LS6) was only trapping 105 or slightly better and running mid- low 13's on a street tire. I honestly dont see that setup listed above as even being equal to this... the 454 from 1970 was higher compression (11:1 approx.), with much better flowing heads/ intake, solid roller cam, etc. Yeah the spruced up truck motor is nothing special imo.

The motor described above does not strike me as anything that will make decent power... sound cool, good cruiser motor, and look good yeah it will do that, for track duty it needs work.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the 70's my dad had a 69 maro with a stock 454 big block in it and it ran 11.0's. and in a 70's Monte Carlro it went 11.5's and these car where used to drive us to school.

With a big block it doesnt take much to make a car run if you know what your doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock 454 from what?... cause there was no 454 offered in a 69 camaro.

Also your 100% right it does not take much for a big block to run hard <U>if you know what your doing</U>, but from the looks of the parts list and 454 above... knowing what your doing escaped this person.

 

9.80 @ 141.... your toast

jk.... maybe 12's... with slicks and a good drag gear

 

This is in our 69 slomaro.

 

daily driver ?

 

That fogger looks like it might run a little lean if you spray it.