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H2B... Is it worth the money?

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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Default H2B... Is it worth the money?

I'm considering an h2b swap. The main problem I can forsee is the wiring. But all totaled it is going to cost roughly 4k. Are the numbers worth the money, or should i jsut go another route?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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The wiring isn't much differen't at all.

Yes it's worth it.

If you do labor yourself you can easily do an H2b for under $4000.

I think I added it up one time and I got ~$3500.

It's the new cool swap. k20's have something to fear.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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will i have to use a b series wiring harness or h series?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Depends on which ecu you run, but most run a chipped p28.

You'd run an H-series.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Does anything need to be modified on the harness to work, or is it plug and play in a 95 civic coupe?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Sorry for my n00b-ness but what is an h2b?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16b-EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for my n00b-ness but what is an h2b?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mating an h22 engine to a b-series transmission via a special adapter plate and mounts.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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wiring is the same as wiring an h22...easy.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Mating an h22 engine to a b-series transmission via a special adapter plate and mounts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboD_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anything need to be modified on the harness to work, or is it plug and play in a 95 civic coupe?</TD></TR></TABLE>


basically you have to extend the alternator wires and run a resistor box depending on what injectors you use
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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thanks for the info guys. Ill be back when i get to to the swap.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Ask the moderator Bense, hes a Hybrid guru, hes currently working on H2d, or F2d, not sure.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ask the moderator Bense, hes a Hybrid guru, hes currently working on H2d, or F2d, not sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's an f2d.

F series and H series are externally identical. The IM and some of the internal parts are different. For example the crankshaft i believe is different.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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my opinion yes it is worth it
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Old May 7, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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HELL YES!
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Old May 7, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Go for it. It seems well worth the cash.

Post some pics when you're done bro.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboD_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm considering an h2b swap. The main problem I can forsee is the wiring. But all totaled it is going to cost roughly 4k. Are the numbers worth the money, or should i jsut go another route?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wiring is exactly the same as doing a regular H22 swap. You would want to use your Civic harness and pull plugs from the H22 harness to add to the civic harness. There is a thread on HT that gives you step by step instructions.

Swap costs roughly 3-4K, basically drops in like a B series swap, and for the money cant be touched by any other Honda hybrid swap.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alchemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Swap costs roughly 3-4K, basically drops in like a B series swap, and for the money cant be touched by any other Honda hybrid swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, most of the K-series guys are like

They have some competition.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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What about the other problems with swapping in the regular H22. The most typical complaint being the engine tilt causes oversteer issues. Is this still a problem with the H2B conversion in an EG, or is this somehow overcome?
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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Anybody if the evolution is worth buying over the quartersports version???
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n.famous.1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anybody if the evolution is worth buying over the quartersports version???</TD></TR></TABLE>

6 of one, half-dozen of another.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by travelor101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about the other problems with swapping in the regular H22. The most typical complaint being the engine tilt causes oversteer issues. Is this still a problem with the H2B conversion in an EG, or is this somehow overcome? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, axle placement is like a regular b-series. So no axle issues like the h22 which had the axles at wonky angles which require beefier axles/differentials.

The handling issues with the h22 is a myth. h2b's weigh roughly 20lbs more than a b-series and sit directly over the axles. It's the same whether your h2b or regular h22 swap.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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I've heard these swaps are pretty sick. Their 1/4 mile times are very impressive for little modification. How are you going to be using the car. Daily?Weekend? Here https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2006239

(c-speedracing should make a "how-to" on this swap. There getting more and more popular. )
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boost_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(c-speedracing should make a "how-to" on this swap. There getting more and more popular. )</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's because h2b swaps my k20 owners buttholes pucker.

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