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Buying this 00 Accord Coupe EX V6 need input.

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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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I put a downpayment on this car the other day and its on hold right with my name on it. I am selling my 05 Grand Cherokee Limited Hemi for something better on fuel and can do without the car payment (buying a house at end of summer).

This would be the first honda I have owned (or import for that matter). I previously also had a 99 C5 Corvette and always do my own work on cars. I do have mechanical knowledge.

I have been searching for a while now for a 6th gen Accord any model just something that does ok on fuel and will have little to no car payment on. I finally stumbled across one that I think may be a keeper. Its a 00 Accord Coupe EX V6. The
car has 100,500 miles on the clock and you would never know by looking at it. It is a one owner vehicle purchased brand new in 99 by the same people who just traded it on for a new Volvo 10 days ago. The car surprisingly has original paint which is hard to come by these days (this is a big plus to me as im not a fan of cars that have been repainted). Sticker price is $8995 and sticker also says 105K service required soon which I am glad they are atleast being honost about it. KBB says $9,900 for this car. What I am trying to research is how much the 105K service will cost from Honda. Should I take it there, somewhere else, or try some of the work myself?
I drove the car and it feels great. I also payed very close attention to the transmission as I have heard that can be a weak point in this car. It shifted great.

I already negotiated $8500 as is. What would you guys do negotiate more because of how much the work will cost to get done at Honda? Or pay full sticker price of $8995 and have them do the work at the Honda dealership next door, or try and negotiate $8,000 and take it as is? Just trying to get some ideas.

Here are some pictures I snapped of the car.
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JT







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Old May 6, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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That looks like a very clean car. looks identical to mine but FYI there is a huge transmission issue with these cars. you might want to look into that before buying.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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trans warranty is either up or close to being up on that car. you need to have the car inspected and if the trans is leaking from the axle seals, do not buy it as the trans is shot.

I would get an 03 or newer accord V6.

105K service will set you back about $1300 including timing belt/w water pump, all filters (including cabin filters) antifreeze change PS fluid change and brake fluid change. At 105K car may also need front brakes.....
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Old May 6, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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Thanks for the replies. As far as the transmission goes I will have the axle seals checked out however I would think if the transmission is on its last legs you should be able to tell by its operation as well. I drove this one and like I said I payed close attention to the transmission and its operation was flawless (at WOT as well).
The car is a 00 with exactly 100,524 miles on it so im assuming all warranty coverage is up.
The Volvo dealership this car is at is actually paired with a Honda dealership next door by the same owner as Volvo. This will make it easy to have the car checked out.
Im guessing the transmission problem is hit or miss because obviously like 7 out of 10 cars on the street are Accords lol and if it was that bad there would be serious recall issues with the transmission. Has this problem been found to be to from abuse or poor maintanence? or is it more or less some are ok and some are bad?

Let me finish by saying this, if all checks out well as it has so far (drives perfectly, VERY clean well maintained car 100,524 miles all options one owner, original paint), and knowing that it is due for a 105K service within 5,000 miles how much would you guys pay for this 2000 Accord EX? KBB says $10,565 retail, sticker at Volvo says $8995 and I got them down to $8500 so far. Is this a good deal or what?

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James
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Old May 6, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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axle seals leaking is one of the first signs that the trans is toast. trans will still shift normally but it's too late since the diff bearing are toast and 2nd gear follows shortly there after
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Old May 6, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Do those axle seals apply to all trans or just the v6 one?

I know for the 4 cylinder dealer to do just the timing belt is around 600+, along with water pump etc.

105k service includes a tuneup as well I believe. Just beware the tranny on that V6, they are hell from what I hear.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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all of the 6th gen transmissions......except the manual one
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Just for reinforcement, beware of the Auto 6th gen tranny.

Wasn't it made by Ford?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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nice car, but what are you talking about original paint is hard to come by? especialy for a 2000. The only people I know that had there cars repainted are the guys in my car club that have show cars and there mostly 91-97's. I would avoid the tranny in those cars from all the horror stories I've heard, but thats just me
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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The 6th gen accord tran warrarnty has extended to 7 years 9 months or 100,900 miles get it checked by honda first...my car drove fine too but after inspected by honda they determined an internal failure and went ahead and replaced it for me at 85k
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Old May 7, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Stealthman80,
What I am talking about is not show cars dude im saying its hard to come by a car that is 7 years old that hasnt had some sort of collision damage and has either bondo all over it or been repainted in general which 8 times out of 10 is done poorly and just looks like crap in general. All I was saying is that cars take beatings these days and a huge majority of used cars you see on the lots have had some sort of collision damage which this one does not. Paint is factory original from new back in 1999.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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the two biggest issues with the 6th gen v6 accords is

1) tranny issues, everyone has already talked about this so u already know the situation with this.

2) alternator issues, Honda decided to use cheap Delphi alternators in the the 6th gens. Mine died out at 100k. If you see your battery light come on and it alternator whining (this is something you will notice) its time to change the alternator.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hardtopvette &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stealthman80,
What I am talking about is not show cars dude im saying its hard to come by a car that is 7 years old that hasnt had some sort of collision damage and has either bondo all over it or been repainted in general which 8 times out of 10 is done poorly and just looks like crap in general. All I was saying is that cars take beatings these days and a huge majority of used cars you see on the lots have had some sort of collision damage which this one does not. Paint is factory original from new back in 1999.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whaaaat???? Are you serious?? You must live in a town full of dumbasses who can't drive. I know 20+ honda owners with factory paint , most of their cars being 10+ years old.

BTW. Stealthman wasn't talking about only show cars either. He said the only people he knows to have a re-paint are guys with show cars. It is NOT common for a 7 year old car to have been wrecked and repainted. Anyone who would buy a 7 year old car that has already been wrecked is an asshat in the first place.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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when I had my 6th gen V6, my alt bit the bullet at 99K and change....dealer told me it is very rare for original alt to make it to 100K. GM POS.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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I own a 98 V6 with 130k on it. The tranny holding up I would suppose is how its been taken care of. Some people say they baby their car but that varies from person to person. If its maintained well it should be fine. My car was from an old lady and it shifted fine when I got it at 86k. It was like butter and the car rode really well until I dropped it and such.

As of right now it shifts ok but not like how it used to be because of me. I do abuse it so Im not gonna flip out. One thing that it does that scares me is that it jerks really bad when you shift between gears after the tranny is hot from frequent stops from here to there. A lot of shifting will cause it to do this. I have yet to install a tranny cooler to remedy it though.

If it wasnt for the tranny the car would be a good buy. It is a hit or miss with the tranny though so its up to you. Its a gamble more or less. If you feel its still good then id buy it. Just change the fluids regularly and install a tranny cooler. The misc things are the alternator problem which can be fixed by swapping in a TL/CL/Oddyssey/ and MDX unit. Check for the ignition recall and EGR valve replacement.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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unfortunately with these trannies, it is a defective design that causes the problem, not so much if you are gingerly or WOT all the time...some of the hard parts are just plain crap in the unit.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unfortunately with these trannies, it is a defective design that causes the problem, not so much if you are gingerly or WOT all the time...some of the hard parts are just plain crap in the unit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Definately agree with that
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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yeah thats what I ment teh number of original paint job cars here is like 80%
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Once again thanks for all the replies guys. I ended up buying the car and so far I really enjoy driving it. I went to Honda for the heck of it to check up on some stuff because obviously the tranny issues have my attention and to my surprise I guess they extended the tranny warranty even more!!! My car is covered until 109,000 miles or sept of this year. So I have about 9,000 miles and 4 months. lol better than nothin I guess.
My next thing is figuring out what im gonna do about the 105K service and getting that timing belt done.

James
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Old May 9, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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not to beat a subject to death, but i work for an acura dealership and the issue with the transmissions is due to a design flaw and the flow of transmission fluid, it does not flow properly thus not lubricating/cooling the diff and also 2nd gear. There is a patch for it, if they catch it in time, where they install an external trans cooler and make a port in the tranny housing to redirect the fluid.. Im not 100% sure how this works b/c i dont work on that end of things and have never done it myself, but just thought id throw in a little light on the subject.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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I had my tran replaced by Honda 1000 miles ago...I believe they fix the problem if you replace it...not only fixing the fluid flowing problem they also added breathers to help getting rid of pressure
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