does anyone have firsthand experience with metal to metal bonding agents for non structural body parts such as quarter panels, like the stuff made by lord/fusor and 3m?

i'm looking to replace my entire quarters with new oem parts and am considering this inplace of traditional plug welding. i've googled it, it's approved by some car manufacturers for repairs, they use similar products on aircraft in lieu of rivets, but i'm still somewhat skeptical....


thanks!

 

fusor made by the lord company has the best metal bonding adhesive on the planet. we use it at least once a week installing bedsides and quarters.

 

what is this stuff anyone have a pic of the prodect?

 

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Used Fusor back in school Great stuff. Worked very well for me.
Actually had a Fusor rep come in and talk with us.

 

there 100ez heat set plastic adhesive is the absolute best bumper repair on the planet. you can put two bumpers together in the middle with no fear of breaking.

 

Some shops in my area use stuff called "Weld Bond" for rear 1/4's.

 

can you replace the attach the entire quarter panel without the use of a welder?

on the lower, most forward part of the new quarter panel is the rocker panel cover which goes over the side sill. once you cut the old part out infront of the b-pillar, i would imagine you would usually do a butt weld to join the new quarter to the rest of the existing sill. can you grind down the area and slap fusor over it, grind it down and slap a thin layer of filler over it?

is this stuff flexible after is it applied? if i wanted to plug an antenna hole and realized after bonding the metal patch that it was too high, could i hammer and dolly it?

how good does this stuff hold up over long term? there's plenty of benefits of using these metal bonding products (won't rust at the seams, no panel warping), but if i wanted to keep the car forever, is this a better alternative to a traditional plug/butt weld with a mig route and seam sealers?

 

I only use the 3M products so I cannot speak for what the other MFG's recommend. On a quarter with 3M you MUST weld the back seam where the tail light would go, and if you spliced into the sail panel. Using the bonding agent on the sail seam can give you a "ghost line" in that area. The panel bonding is not intended to prevent tear away, in a accident if a car clipped the rear of that quarter and its not welded in the back, that quarter could be lying next to the car. All my paperwork is all packed for the move in 3 days, but the 3M I use is aproved by GM and one other I cannot remember at this moment.

And if it was me, I would use it on my personal car. I just replaced the quarter on a family members EG with the MIG only. Come winter when I end up replacing the quarter on my EG ill most likely use 3M's bonding agent. It Makes the job much quicker, and while you still have to go in and rust proof, you dont have burnt OEM paint and removed e-coat everywhere you welded making it alot quicker to rust proof....thats just my .02 tho