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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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well h-t i got a 92 coupe with a mini-me in it. The motor ran real nice, with no smoke or nothing. a month later or so i swapped in an aftermarket bullfrog camshaft. Ran it pretty good and everything but i seemed to get a light white smoke. i played around and set the valve lashes and everything like that but as i drove the car the smoke got worse and at an even lower rpm like 6000. i was just wondering would anyone know what else it would be. ETC headgasket, piston rings, ........
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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also burns alot of oil.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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what does it smell like, coolant, oil ect.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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white smoke is usually water so i would assume head gasket if it was a blue smoke id assume its oil that would be rings or valve seals.. just my opinion
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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did you re-use the headgasket when you installed the cam?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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White smoke i coolant buring.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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valve seals, head gasket....
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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no worries... I just threw some seafoam in there when you werent looking
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Sounds like the headgasket. Any coolant in the oil?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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How do u tell if there is coolant in the oil?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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when I took off my head to replace my head gasket, this is what I found


And this is what happens when you wait too long!



My poor civic :disappoin

That was when I had my D15B7 in there.... This is what your oil will look like if you wait too long (Coolant mixed with oil -Right side)






Does this help?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you re-use the headgasket when you installed the cam?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i didnt take the head off when i installled the cam
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sageuvagony &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when I took off my head to replace my head gasket, this is what I found


And this is what happens when you wait too long!



My poor civic :disappoin

That was when I had my D15B7 in there.... This is what your oil will look like if you wait too long (Coolant mixed with oil -Right side)






Does this help?</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol its not that white, its a little darker then that
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:19 AM
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i think im going to check the headgasket and the valve seal guides and make sure i didnt bend any valves. Then ill take it from there. thanx for the help
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:50 AM
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yea check the head gasket cause i had the same problem and it ended up being a blown head gasket
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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yea but wouldnt there be other things wrong with the car, but i did notice a little oil leak
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Take the radiator cap off when the car is cold and start it. If the coolant is bubbling you have a headgasket leak.
Also check the overflow to see if its full of coolant.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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the reason mini me and ls-vtec, b20/vtec burn oil is because it' not a honda built engine. the best solution for that is, obviuosly LS-vtec oil kit + oil catch can.
not many people use oil catch cans, but they can really help improve the oil circulation.

i'd recommend you to replace your gaskets and get a catchCAN

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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Farmer Brown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take the radiator cap off when the car is cold and start it. If the coolant is bubbling you have a headgasket leak.
Also check the overflow to see if its full of coolant.
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Good ideas here, but even perfectly normal engine will bubble through the radiator cap area until the cooling fans cycle.

Best idea is to do this, but buy a coolant funnel that screws onto the radiator and fill it 1/2 way then start the car, let the cooling fans cycle at least twice, then if bubbles still come up through the funnel congradulations! you have a blown head gasket!

...but logic tells me that burning lots of oil + smoke means time for a new engine.

Other may say "rebuild it!" but for mini-me who cares? Buy yourself a low mileage imported ZC SOHC VTEC or find a good D16Z6 with a warranty and drop it in there. Rebuilds take time and there's too many things that can get screwed such as machine work, etc.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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well me and my father came to the conclusion it has to be the valve guide seals. started doing it when i swapped the camshaft and its more of a burnt oil smell and darker smoke.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenSOUL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the reason mini me and ls-vtec, b20/vtec burn oil is because it' not a honda built engine. the best solution for that is, obviuosly LS-vtec oil kit + oil catch can.
not many people use oil catch cans, but they can really help improve the oil circulation.

i'd recommend you to replace your gaskets and get a catchCAN

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You have no idea what your talking about so please dont post.

1. I have had 2 B20Vtec motors and neither or them burned oil.
2. The Vtec conversion kit has nothing to do with burning oil. If you even tried to run an LSvtec or B20vtec without a conversion kit you would just kill the head because it wouldnt get enough oil.
3. An oil catch can doesnt even help if your burning oil. All a catch can does is collect oil as crankcase pressure is being vented.
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