We were tuning my H22 at the shop saterday and seemed to hit a wall at 21 to 22 psi.It just to seem that it stopped making power efficiently.The more we turned the boost up the worse it seemed.I have one of those huge ebay intercooler and it flowed good till about 580 or so wheel.Has anyone else ran into this problem or does it seem something else is going on.The iat seemed good..

H22A1
9.1 CP PISTONS
MANLEY RODS
SUPER TECH VALVE TRAIN
FULL PORT AND POLISH
GE INTAKE MANIFOLD
70MM TB
t67 h.o

 

sounds like another heat soaked ebay FMIC to me

 

datalog said iat"s were around 98.Just relized I posted in the wrong area..

 

honda air temp sensors respond too slow to pick up any change during a dyno pull, so don't pay attention to your datalog. Put a better ic on there, it'll be well worth your time....

 

Look into density difference between no name cheap FMIC's and something good like a Precision. It's worth the extra money.

 

I vote you buy a Tony1 intercooler if you want to make power.

 

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good to know, suggestions on on a better alternative? aem has a calibration for a gm sensor which i found for 30-35bucks, i think the aem sensor was double that. any experiences with either of these?

 

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the t1 on the inside adds mad power!

 

Go with a Garrett Core...


I'm sure with some searching you could find a better price on that core as well.

 

Anything is better than an ebay IC..I've seen people get away with making 500-600 hp on the IC, but whose to say that they wouldn't have made 40-60hp more..Save yourself the headaches and go with something that works..

 

were at 560 on one of our cars but i think its long due for something a little better

 

Just to update we dyno'ed it again tonight.It went from 577whp 387trq to 644whp 455trq at the same boost level.Very happy with just a simple intercooler swap.I will post the graph as soon as I can

 

You get what you pay for...and sometimes a whole lot less.

 

Wow, that's a hell of a gain! lol Maybe people will listen to me when i say those ic's are junk now...

 

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nah, youll still be posting the same thing in a week.


BTW sounds like a good set up... ive been tossing around the idea of turbo'ing a H22 for my prelude...

 

Tony, whats a good IAT sensor to run that will work with aem? Is there something that responds fast enough to actually be usufull?

 

The AEM one (GM) works good.

 

Thanx everybody for all the help.Now it's time to see If I can get my overweight civic down the track any better

 

Damn, I had to cheap out and buy the ebay **** lol. Thats impressive power gain from just an intercooler change.

 

Damn, thats good gain. no wonder I never buy any ebay cheap crap for important stuff

 

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But so and so runs it on their race car haha j/k. Good job Andy, that thing should run good at IFO!

 

I am glad to see the new ic worked out for ya. Sorry I wasnt there to meet you in person.

 

who is having a good sale on garret intercoolers? i need something big and new for my new engine.

 

there a bar and plate intercooler claiming it handles 1000hp.4" core bar and plate desing for like $150 shipped on ebay..it has a 0.2-0.5 psi drop @ 15 psi..is this any good.

 

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lol, isnt this whole thread about what pos ebay ics are?