RR for my f4i?
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RR for my f4i?
My friend is selling his 06 RR w. 900miles for 7.5k, and he is telling me if I want it he will give it to me for 6.5k. I thought I will keep my f4i and get a 2nd bike in the future, but i feel this deal is too sweet. If i want to get it now I have to sell my f4i. what do you guys think? Do you think I will find a buyer for my bike for 7k? thanx in advance.
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not worth it. Plus you'll be hard pressed to get someone to pay 7k for an F4i.
RRs are nice, but the differences between to two aren't worth it. The RR turns better and has a better top end, but the F4i doesn't kill your ***, back, and wrists.
It's up to you. What do you use the bike for more.
RRs are nice, but the differences between to two aren't worth it. The RR turns better and has a better top end, but the F4i doesn't kill your ***, back, and wrists.
It's up to you. What do you use the bike for more.
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I don't think it would be worth it to trade an 06 F4i for an 06RR...if you were talking about an 07RR, then I would be all over it! 
With that said, I owned my 03 F4i for a good 7 months and put about 4500 miles on it. I recently traded it out for a 2006 R6 and haven't regretted it.
Although the seating position of the F4i is not as agressive, I didn't find that to make a noticable difference once I switched bikes.
Actually the R6 makes my *** less sore on longer rides because the padding in the seat of the R6 is way more comfortable than the F4i (maybe they changed this with the newer F4is?)
Also, I recall feeling a lot more vibration from the F4i. After an hour of riding my my hands and feet would become numb due to the vibration of the bike. I definately don't get that with the R6...
Just my two cents about my experience regarding the comfort level with my 2003 F4i.
With that said, I owned my 03 F4i for a good 7 months and put about 4500 miles on it. I recently traded it out for a 2006 R6 and haven't regretted it.
Although the seating position of the F4i is not as agressive, I didn't find that to make a noticable difference once I switched bikes.
Actually the R6 makes my *** less sore on longer rides because the padding in the seat of the R6 is way more comfortable than the F4i (maybe they changed this with the newer F4is?)
Also, I recall feeling a lot more vibration from the F4i. After an hour of riding my my hands and feet would become numb due to the vibration of the bike. I definately don't get that with the R6...
Just my two cents about my experience regarding the comfort level with my 2003 F4i.
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Also, I recall feeling a lot more vibration from the F4i. After an hour of riding my my hands and feet would become numb due to the vibration of the bike. I definately don't get that with the R6...
Just my two cents about my experience regarding the comfort level with my 2003 F4i. [/QUOTE]
You are right, the f4i does vibrate a lot, also i rode my friend's rr around and it seems more smooth and the acceleration is tighter. I wanted to get the rr intially, but i havent really rode a sport bike. before getting my f4i I practiced on my brother's cruiser. now that i have been riding for about a year now, I feel like i want something a little more aggressive. I dunno, gonna go canyon riding this weekend, see how the f4i does
Also, I recall feeling a lot more vibration from the F4i. After an hour of riding my my hands and feet would become numb due to the vibration of the bike. I definately don't get that with the R6...
Just my two cents about my experience regarding the comfort level with my 2003 F4i. [/QUOTE]
You are right, the f4i does vibrate a lot, also i rode my friend's rr around and it seems more smooth and the acceleration is tighter. I wanted to get the rr intially, but i havent really rode a sport bike. before getting my f4i I practiced on my brother's cruiser. now that i have been riding for about a year now, I feel like i want something a little more aggressive. I dunno, gonna go canyon riding this weekend, see how the f4i does
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won't get 7K for a F4i in california, sorry.
also, while the 600rr is a better "sportbike", the F4i's a pretty damned good/versatile sportbike, and is no slouch when it comes to the fast stuff.
as much as i think the 675 is more fun to ride than my f4i, it's the f4i that's getting tracked out, for a number of reasons, one of them being that they're good sportbikes.
also, while the 600rr is a better "sportbike", the F4i's a pretty damned good/versatile sportbike, and is no slouch when it comes to the fast stuff.
as much as i think the 675 is more fun to ride than my f4i, it's the f4i that's getting tracked out, for a number of reasons, one of them being that they're good sportbikes.
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the 01-03 f4i's were honda's sport bikes before the rr came out in 03. the 04-06 are considered more of sport crusiers, w. the ugly banana seat, and the less aggressive riding posture. i like f4i, cuz it is forgiving and comfortable. but after riding a few others (gsx-r, r6, and rr) the f4i seems chiller.
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I think one of the main things to take into account here is that there is both the money factor and the fun factor.
1) Are you going to break even on the F4i if you sell it now? Right now is a good time to sell bikes, so that's on your side with summer on the way. I guess it matters if you owe money on the F4i. Also, is your friend's RR worth the $6.5k?
2) Do you want to step up to an RR? I rode mt F4i for more than a year and thought of it as a performance bike. It wasn't until I got my RR that I saw the differences between the bikes. The RR is tight and smooth, though less forgiving. The F4i is comfortable and forgiving, but less peppy.
I guess I would figure out the money situation first, then if the RR would be a reasonable swap, do it. You won't regret it
1) Are you going to break even on the F4i if you sell it now? Right now is a good time to sell bikes, so that's on your side with summer on the way. I guess it matters if you owe money on the F4i. Also, is your friend's RR worth the $6.5k?
2) Do you want to step up to an RR? I rode mt F4i for more than a year and thought of it as a performance bike. It wasn't until I got my RR that I saw the differences between the bikes. The RR is tight and smooth, though less forgiving. The F4i is comfortable and forgiving, but less peppy.
I guess I would figure out the money situation first, then if the RR would be a reasonable swap, do it. You won't regret it
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quiks66 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The RR is tight and smooth, though less forgiving. </TD></TR></TABLE>
how is it riding the rr for 1+ hours at a time?
how is it riding the rr for 1+ hours at a time?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 01-03 f4i's were honda's sport bikes before the rr came out in 03. the 04-06 are considered more of sport crusiers, w. the ugly banana seat, and the less aggressive riding posture. i like f4i, cuz it is forgiving and comfortable. but after riding a few others (gsx-r, r6, and rr) the f4i seems chiller.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, the banana seat is sort of a bummer, but a tail swap w/ an 01-03 is cheaper than buying a 600rr.
the f4i isn't up to snuff with the brand new sportbikes of the day, but honestly the bike is still way faster than you (or me, and most people) and is capable of hauling *** in a major way. remember that the 01-03 f4i's are faster in a straight line the 600rr's (more midrange), so it's not like the bike's performance potential is really holding you back. also, compared to it's competition, i think the f4i is a much better bike than the 01-03 gixxers and not TOO far behind the R6's.
though, i'm not one to tell you that getting a new bike is a bad idea. if you just want a new bike, or think the 600rr looks good enough to go through the trouble of selling and buying bikes, go for it. if it's because you think the 600rr is significantly faster or a better performer in the hands of an average rider (average as in not a professional), i think you'll be surprised at the truly miniscule difference b/w the two.
give the f4i a chance
yeah, the banana seat is sort of a bummer, but a tail swap w/ an 01-03 is cheaper than buying a 600rr.
the f4i isn't up to snuff with the brand new sportbikes of the day, but honestly the bike is still way faster than you (or me, and most people) and is capable of hauling *** in a major way. remember that the 01-03 f4i's are faster in a straight line the 600rr's (more midrange), so it's not like the bike's performance potential is really holding you back. also, compared to it's competition, i think the f4i is a much better bike than the 01-03 gixxers and not TOO far behind the R6's.
though, i'm not one to tell you that getting a new bike is a bad idea. if you just want a new bike, or think the 600rr looks good enough to go through the trouble of selling and buying bikes, go for it. if it's because you think the 600rr is significantly faster or a better performer in the hands of an average rider (average as in not a professional), i think you'll be surprised at the truly miniscule difference b/w the two.
give the f4i a chance
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
give the f4i a chance
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yea im gonna go take it canyon riding this weekend i do not really care about the speed/power difference between the two, it is not like I am going to go 100+ mph constanly. i love the look of the rr, plus I feel more stable taking turns. the f4i seems kind of shakey in high speed turn, but it feels the rr can eat turns like nothing.
give the f4i a chance
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yea im gonna go take it canyon riding this weekend
i do not really care about the speed/power difference between the two, it is not like I am going to go 100+ mph constanly. i love the look of the rr, plus I feel more stable taking turns. the f4i seems kind of shakey in high speed turn, but it feels the rr can eat turns like nothing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
plus I feel more stable taking turns. the f4i seems kind of shakey in high speed turn, but it feels the rr can eat turns like nothing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
the f4i for the most part should be just as stable in turns, try fiddling with the suspension. almost sounds like you should nail down the front rebound/tire pressures. unless you're a really big guy, the f4i should have plenty of suspension for street riding.
plus I feel more stable taking turns. the f4i seems kind of shakey in high speed turn, but it feels the rr can eat turns like nothing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
the f4i for the most part should be just as stable in turns, try fiddling with the suspension. almost sounds like you should nail down the front rebound/tire pressures. unless you're a really big guy, the f4i should have plenty of suspension for street riding.
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At first I thought about selling my f4i to get a 600rr, but after thinking about it i realized an f4i is about as competent as the rr on the track, and better on the street. Get yourself adjustable rear sets, and if youre not happy with the suspension get that rebuilt. It's much more worth it to spend a few hundred on your bike to bring it up to "spec" for you than it is to spend a thousand or two for 10 more whp and 10 lbs. less.
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the only difference between the 01-03 f4is and the 04+ F4is is the seat. That's the only thing affecting the ergos. It's still very much a true sport bike. Many people race F4is at the track.
The F4i has more mid range power than the RR and is more useable on the street.
As you said you doubt you would notice a power difference.
The delivery is a little more smooth, but once i got my power commander the throttle smoothed out a bit on my F4i.
The RR is more aggressive in the sense that it's uncomfortable. You sit more on top of the bike rather than slightly down in it. The suspension is more aggressive, and the clipons are more aggressive.
I agree the RR feels more comfortable going in to corners, but i felt like the F4i was more stable mid corner. Work on body positioning, and setup your suspension. I used sportrider's recommended suspension settings and found them to my liking.
There's no reason why the F4i shouldn't tear up anything. It's fast in a straight line and can hold it's own in a corner.
My only gripe with the bike was CCT chatter. That stuff drives me nuts.
Again, you'll never get 7k for an F4i, especially in california. You're better off selling your bike and shooting for an 05 RR, if you really want to get something more aggressive.
I thought i wanted a more aggressive bike too, and that's why i got the RC51. I don't know if you can get more purpose built. And what it taught me was that i use my bike for way more than just carving up corners. I wanted a multi-purpose bike. And that's what the F4i is. A real do-it-all bike.
The F4i has more mid range power than the RR and is more useable on the street.
As you said you doubt you would notice a power difference.
The delivery is a little more smooth, but once i got my power commander the throttle smoothed out a bit on my F4i.
The RR is more aggressive in the sense that it's uncomfortable. You sit more on top of the bike rather than slightly down in it. The suspension is more aggressive, and the clipons are more aggressive.
I agree the RR feels more comfortable going in to corners, but i felt like the F4i was more stable mid corner. Work on body positioning, and setup your suspension. I used sportrider's recommended suspension settings and found them to my liking.
There's no reason why the F4i shouldn't tear up anything. It's fast in a straight line and can hold it's own in a corner.
My only gripe with the bike was CCT chatter. That stuff drives me nuts.
Again, you'll never get 7k for an F4i, especially in california. You're better off selling your bike and shooting for an 05 RR, if you really want to get something more aggressive.
I thought i wanted a more aggressive bike too, and that's why i got the RC51. I don't know if you can get more purpose built. And what it taught me was that i use my bike for way more than just carving up corners. I wanted a multi-purpose bike. And that's what the F4i is. A real do-it-all bike.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am really excited about going canyon riding this weekend. First time going, any advice? like...entry speed, etc?</TD></TR></TABLE>
my advice is to not worry about that stuff explicitly. the general rule of thumb is to maintain a pace that does not require you to brake for corner entry. there will be exceptions for blind corners on a road you don't know, or seeing something ahead that may kill you.
RIDE WITHIN YOUR LIMITS! ! ! !
get comfy with getting some lean angle, and the basics like looking through the turn and getting comfy with gentle countersteering inputs. do NOT worry about how fast you are, keeping up with faster riders, or anything like that.
concentrate on finding your rhythm, paying attention to potential dangers like debris, squirrels, traffic, dumbass cagers making uturns in blind corners, etc. and keeping you and the bike in 1 piece.
where are you riding this weekend?
my advice is to not worry about that stuff explicitly. the general rule of thumb is to maintain a pace that does not require you to brake for corner entry. there will be exceptions for blind corners on a road you don't know, or seeing something ahead that may kill you.
RIDE WITHIN YOUR LIMITS! ! ! !
get comfy with getting some lean angle, and the basics like looking through the turn and getting comfy with gentle countersteering inputs. do NOT worry about how fast you are, keeping up with faster riders, or anything like that.
concentrate on finding your rhythm, paying attention to potential dangers like debris, squirrels, traffic, dumbass cagers making uturns in blind corners, etc. and keeping you and the bike in 1 piece.
where are you riding this weekend?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know the susp. settings for the 06 f4i for track? thanx</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0006_susp/
http://www.sportrider.com/bike...tings/
this is a good place to start. you'll need to do some research to figure out what they're talking about though. read the first link before looking at the 2nd.
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0006_susp/
http://www.sportrider.com/bike...tings/
this is a good place to start. you'll need to do some research to figure out what they're talking about though. read the first link before looking at the 2nd.
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gonna ride up to crestline, Lake gregory? a lil under big bear lake. I have the chatterbox x2, anyone familiar with the range up in the mountains? i heard the range gets cut down a lot up there
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http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0006_susp/
http://www.sportrider.com/bike...tings/
this is a good place to start. you'll need to do some research to figure out what they're talking about though. read the first link before looking at the 2nd. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanx
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0006_susp/
http://www.sportrider.com/bike...tings/
this is a good place to start. you'll need to do some research to figure out what they're talking about though. read the first link before looking at the 2nd. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanx
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gonna ride up to crestline, Lake gregory? a lil under big bear lake. I have the chatterbox x2, anyone familiar with the range up in the mountains? i heard the range gets cut down a lot up there</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok, nice ride, but it can be pretty fast up the front side of the 18 with a lot of traffic as well.
chatterboxes have about a mile range up there? something like that.
ok, nice ride, but it can be pretty fast up the front side of the 18 with a lot of traffic as well.
chatterboxes have about a mile range up there? something like that.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are your corner entry speeds? I am pretty comfortable taking 40mph turns at 65ish.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's a pretty loaded question. depends on the corner, conditions, how i'm feeling, etc etc.
you'll know what the right speeds are up there.
that's a pretty loaded question. depends on the corner, conditions, how i'm feeling, etc etc.
you'll know what the right speeds are up there.