Wath is the best turbo for hp at low rpm and good top end?


Modified by milanored92h22 at 2:46 PM 4/28/2007

 

H22 stock internals are good up to around 300whp with a good tune. Boost pressure is irrelevant to horsepower & safety by itself.

 

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pick one you cant really have both...you can but you sacrafice hp

most people go with a t3/t4 and make good power. if you want a good top end id say t3 60-1

 

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No turbo (that you can afford ) can do that. Read up on how turbos work in the forced induction forum.

 

yea unless you can afford a VGT(variable Geometry turbine) turbo, you cant get both....I have a T3/T4 with a .57 ar on a P trim full boost by 3400 rpm and pulls hard all the way to the top. Im running stock internals with a aem sa-ems, downloaded some maps from one of my tuning buddies and ive been running it for about a year now and there have been no problems. Except my clutch is not snapping my welds on my exhaust and breaking my axles. (time for engine torque damper). Your best bet is to ask around for a good street kit, getting a full race kit is not worth it for a DD. gl

 

Does my 345cc stock injectors and my stock gaz pump are good for 300hp at the flywheel?

 

no....go for rc 550s or some dsm 450s and a walbro pump, its about 300 bucks for a set of rc's and another 100 for the pump.. but it will keep you from grenading your engine.

 

Injectors of stock eagle talon are good for a 300hp setup?

 

yup, they work for a 300 hp set up since its a mild number. My buddy was running 22 psi in his 4g63 on his stock injectors with just a tune and pump/fpr upgrade.

 

does the gaz pump of eagle talon is good?

 

i guess it works well for the dsm, but no one i know or myself have ever risked detonating a motor since i could just invest 100 bucks and 20 mins of my time to install a 255lph high flow. Thats just me and my buddies opinions. A fuel system is extremely important in a turbo engine, the only thing that may eclipse it is a good cooling system, so dont cheap out on either.

 

This weekend I talk with my friend who have boost many honda and he tell me that boosting a h22 is really not good idea. The frm sleeve does't like turbo

Got nitrous????

 

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your friend is an idiot and if you dont do your research your getting yourself in an area thats going to cost you alot of $$$$

 

listen not to be too harsh, but your friend is a tool. ANY engine can be grenaded by anyone. IF you are serious about making good power and having a reliable engine you will listen to what we said. Your more likely to blow it up with nitrous then you are with turbo, since nitrous GREATLY increases the EGT your going to fry your rings and possibly burn your pistons. Ive seen H22/23s holding 250whp on a DD tune/setup. The fuel system/cooling system/tune all have to work together to make sure you dont end up towing it home. But its your money your choice.

ps. oh yea im pushing ~275whp on a stock h23 internals.

 

^^i agree. ive seen motors that were biult for 700+ hp blow its all in the tune. ive run nitrous before and it is way more risky than turbo. h22/23's are great motors you just have to do things the right way not half assed

 

Tanks for yours comments! I would like just to pull 250whp. I have fitted my h22 with my old f22 tranny and i think that is very good for turbo (long final drive 4.062) Please give me ideas!!

 

a long final drive is good for cruising but if you want to keep your turbo in the hotzone your going to want to use a H22 or 23 tranny, the gearing is a bit more aggressive.

 

for blownh23a and nonvteclude: how long you guys been pushing boost on stock engine?

anybody pushing boost with a stock jdm h22a and stock 10.6 compression?

 

boosting for a year and almost a month now...got the kit for my bday last april installed it in 2 days and tuned it a week later...runs great, i just have mild headwork and port matching for optimized flow.thats all stock guts, just keep changing the oil and run a thermostat blockoff plate..wrap the mani and blanket the turbine and its good to go. like taco bell.

 

Ran mine almost 2 years over 10psi and beat the living dog **** out of it non stop...

 

oneludesol: ur also built...so u dont count! j/k
blownh23: do u kno if the h23 and h22 are both just reliable as each other, as in they both can handle boost just as well as each other as long as u get a good tune...or is the h23 better for boost?

anyway, im planning on turboing on stock internals as well. i would say to check out peakboost...since someone with a stock internal h22 got 270ish whp on 4psi and like 336 on 8psi!

 

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blownh23: do u kno if the h23 and h22 are both just reliable as each other, as in they both can handle boost just as well as each other as long as u get a good tune...or is the h23 better for boost?

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h23's are a lil better with boost cuz they have lower compression than the 22's
but they still both have frm

 

nope, before the build... stock they are pretty stout motors contrary to popular belief. you just get enough idiots on boost untuned and they all fail the same way (ringlands) and people start hating. and frm may suck because of the inability to run forged pistons except for mhale, but keep in mind that frm technology is shared by nsx and i think s2k if im not mistaken

 

what you mean the inablility to run forged pistons besides mhale. Wisecos will not work? On an h22 or h23? Im planning to build my motor this winter comming and this is the first time I have heard of this.

Also whats the approx hp difference I would be looking at On a built and boosted h22 or a built and boosted h23. My guess rite off is that the h23 will have less hp but having never boosted either Im not 100% sure.

 

block will have to be re-sleeved in order to run forged pistons