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Be Impatient and go LS or Save for a GSR??? 93 DEL SOL

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Default Be Impatient and go LS or Save for a GSR??? 93 DEL SOL

I Cant stay being slow anymore,I cant keep up wit my brother wit a b20 da n his gf friends with there Tc's......its embarassing...Im sohc non-vtec now and boost is out the question cuz it will blow...my d15b7 sucks... it burns oil like a b***h
I dont mind saving and waiting but i wanna kno about were i would stand with each swap....ya i searched but i want more info....honda-tech...help
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Be Impatient and go LS or Save for a GSR??? 93 DEL SOL (UpNCominEG1)

i say save for either a b18c1/c5 swap best bang for buck swap imo..if not do a mini me for now
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 305accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say save for either a b18c1/c5 swap best bang for buck swap imo..if not do a mini me for now</TD></TR></TABLE>

And waste more money when he want's to swap it anyway?

If you'll have the money, get the c1.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Be Impatient and go LS or Save for a GSR??? 93 DEL SOL (ek forever guy)

Thats wat I was thinking also...I dont want to jus keep up will mainstream races...i wanna b some wat domient or capable of being so....All Motor
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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If you really want to go all motor I suggest doing an h2b.

It can Be done for the same price as a gsr.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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i would like to see a GSR in a sol
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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B18C1 . If you're lucky get a C5 but C1 is good enough for me :D
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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like the ls is an inferior engine???

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Be Impatient and go LS or Save for a GSR??? 93 DEL SOL (UpNCominEG1)

You could always put together a poor man's type R...would be much cheaper than a c5...or just go with the gsr (I wish I had one).

Can't complain with my ls/gsr tranny swap though, still costs less than a gsr swap
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Or you can just pick up a D16z6 for cheap and boost it for less than the GSR, but if you have the money and really want to toss 3k+ at your car, go for the GSR.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Be Impatient and go LS or Save for a GSR??? 93 DEL SOL (95ProjectEJ1)

Don't waste money on the GSR or ITR.

Get an LS, they're cheap as ****.

Pair it with a B16 or ITR transmission*, and it'll be quick as hell, cheap, too. The LS drops almost as much torque as the GSR, only difference is how it gets to the wheels.

* For those who are about to inform me that an ITR and B16 trans are the same, the final drive is different .
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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I'd go GSR...
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't waste money on the GSR or ITR.

Get an LS, they're cheap as ****.

Pair it with a B16 or ITR transmission*, and it'll be quick as hell, cheap, too. The LS drops almost as much torque as the GSR, only difference is how it gets to the wheels.

* For those who are about to inform me that an ITR and B16 trans are the same, the final drive is different .</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was always curious about matting a LS swap with a B16/R/GSR tranny. Do you know what kind of 1/4 times you would get with a bolt on LS with B16 in say a hatch?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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I'd go LS, whole swap for like $1000. Like someone said earlier, shorter tranny will let you keep up in the mean time, then go K-series.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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i say go LS.. then down the road BOOST it. them LS love boost thats my plan
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STI champstar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd go LS, whole swap for like $1000. Like someone said earlier, shorter tranny will let you keep up in the mean time, then go K-series. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Ls FTW!!!! have one in my ek right now, waiting to go lsvtec tho, but i love the ls in there right now, and if i had to i wouldnt mind keepin it
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't waste money on the GSR or ITR.

Get an LS, they're cheap as ****.

Pair it with a B16 or ITR transmission*, and it'll be quick as hell, cheap, too. The LS drops almost as much torque as the GSR, only difference is how it gets to the wheels.

* For those who are about to inform me that an ITR and B16 trans are the same, the final drive is different .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. USDM ITR and B16 trannies are the same. Right down to the final drive(4.4). The difference is the JDM ITR. It has a 4.785 FD, along with different gearing(slightly).

http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm

Do your research before you over-generalize.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nope. USDM ITR and B16 trannies are the same. Right down to the final drive(4.4). The difference is the JDM ITR. It has a 4.785 FD, along with different gearing(slightly).

http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm

Do your research before you over-generalize.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep. LSD is the only difference in the US.

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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Indeed.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Just save and put a K series in it.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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go ls non vtec boost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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why? is the vtec in the ls/vtec swap the turbo killer?
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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I hate these threads... it's just a bunch of different opinions that doesn't get the op any further along in his/her decision.

Save your money and read a lot more in the meantime. You'll make your own decision when you're informed enough
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Ya dats true
...I like different swaps for different reasons but i really wanna go all motor
...Maintainance wise I dont think im ready for boost I dont want to put myself in the now.....a ls with b16 tranny is another swap i like but i want vtec...[ya im picky]ma boy told me save between 1600-2200 for a full gsr swap so i think ima stick with that plan....with bolt ons
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