Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit...
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Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit...
Hi all,
Alot of people have been asking about this hydro adapter, and Ive been through the ringer with it, so ill relay my tale to you all.
April 2006, got my new car, planning on tossing in my shiny fresh B18C1. Start looking around, everyone says hasport or nothing, so hey, ok. I break open the piggy bank (more like 3) order up the EFB2 kit plus linkage.
Ill preface this with saying, the actual mounts have been great! Everything else, not so much. I get it all in no major issues, Im pretty handy with a wrench. First thing I notice is damn, the clutch pedal force is extreme. Im only running an ACT HD plate and street disc, it shouldnt be like that (and wasnt at all that bad when it was in my teg). Some people suggested it was because I was using a cable, but my old cars with way nastier clutches were nowhere near this extreme. Everyone assures me this is normal, so I roll with it.
Life goes on, Im driving my car, readjusting my clutch cable all the time. Then I notice my shifter getting sloppy. I fire up the old laptop, head over to summit and order me up some poly stabilizer mounts. Then I navigate to majestic honda and order me a new roll pin. Couple days later everythign comes in, I put on my bright orange jumpsuit, securely lift the car, and install my new parts. Things feel nicer, but theres still a ton of play. I make a few calls, do some thinking. Then it hits me, UJoint!. I take the linkage out and man, the U joint is destroyed. thing was only a few months old! I hit up rywire, and then hasport, to see what to do.
I pushed pretty hard to get something crosshipped, but it jsut wasnt meant to be. We work out an amicable deal, where I overnighted my linkage to them, they put in a new delrin ujoint, and they overnighted back in good faith, based on my overnighting it to them. I felt pretty good about this service, even though my car was down for a few days. The new linkage has been fine for quite awhile now, so I have to give htem credit. I mentioned the hydro adapter, and got a few suggestions, but nothing helped.
Time keeps on ticking and Im getting real tired of replacing my clutch cable, I also notice my clutch pedal itself is taking a beating. My clutch cable completely broke on a return trip at easter, and I was pretty pissed off at this point. I keep looking for a solution, to the point where I actually bought a cable transmission to prepare for a swap. Then I talked to a local tranny builder who swore he could fix my hydro adapter. I took it off with the quickness, and sent it over to him. See, the problem was, the frontmost piece was riding against the middle piece harder and harder as you pushed in the pedal. His solution was simply to countersink a groove into the back of the adapter. And WOILA, the thing is dead nuts perfect now.
So I order up a fresh cable, clean up the adapter, retorque it on all perfect and im happy, for a few days....Im trying to dial in my clutch cable and it keeps getting all wonky on me. I completely understand it takes a few days for the cable to 'settle' but this was more than that. Im thinking maybe the cable i sjust wack or something, but the pedal sure does feel weird.
Flash to today, I go home at lunch to fire up the rex and drive it back to work. Pull out, clutch pedal feels weird, shift like 3 times, thrid shift foot goes to the floor. My goddamn clutch pedal broke off!
I push the car home, check it out and man the pedal assembly looks like its been through hell. So now I have to swap my pedal set too.
So, word to the wise, if you get the hydro adapter and have binding problems, get that **** fixed asap. Otherwise youll be in the hell I was and am in.
so, in short, hasport mounts ++, hasport other stuff --
-M@
Alot of people have been asking about this hydro adapter, and Ive been through the ringer with it, so ill relay my tale to you all.
April 2006, got my new car, planning on tossing in my shiny fresh B18C1. Start looking around, everyone says hasport or nothing, so hey, ok. I break open the piggy bank (more like 3) order up the EFB2 kit plus linkage.
Ill preface this with saying, the actual mounts have been great! Everything else, not so much. I get it all in no major issues, Im pretty handy with a wrench. First thing I notice is damn, the clutch pedal force is extreme. Im only running an ACT HD plate and street disc, it shouldnt be like that (and wasnt at all that bad when it was in my teg). Some people suggested it was because I was using a cable, but my old cars with way nastier clutches were nowhere near this extreme. Everyone assures me this is normal, so I roll with it.
Life goes on, Im driving my car, readjusting my clutch cable all the time. Then I notice my shifter getting sloppy. I fire up the old laptop, head over to summit and order me up some poly stabilizer mounts. Then I navigate to majestic honda and order me a new roll pin. Couple days later everythign comes in, I put on my bright orange jumpsuit, securely lift the car, and install my new parts. Things feel nicer, but theres still a ton of play. I make a few calls, do some thinking. Then it hits me, UJoint!. I take the linkage out and man, the U joint is destroyed. thing was only a few months old! I hit up rywire, and then hasport, to see what to do.
I pushed pretty hard to get something crosshipped, but it jsut wasnt meant to be. We work out an amicable deal, where I overnighted my linkage to them, they put in a new delrin ujoint, and they overnighted back in good faith, based on my overnighting it to them. I felt pretty good about this service, even though my car was down for a few days. The new linkage has been fine for quite awhile now, so I have to give htem credit. I mentioned the hydro adapter, and got a few suggestions, but nothing helped.
Time keeps on ticking and Im getting real tired of replacing my clutch cable, I also notice my clutch pedal itself is taking a beating. My clutch cable completely broke on a return trip at easter, and I was pretty pissed off at this point. I keep looking for a solution, to the point where I actually bought a cable transmission to prepare for a swap. Then I talked to a local tranny builder who swore he could fix my hydro adapter. I took it off with the quickness, and sent it over to him. See, the problem was, the frontmost piece was riding against the middle piece harder and harder as you pushed in the pedal. His solution was simply to countersink a groove into the back of the adapter. And WOILA, the thing is dead nuts perfect now.
So I order up a fresh cable, clean up the adapter, retorque it on all perfect and im happy, for a few days....Im trying to dial in my clutch cable and it keeps getting all wonky on me. I completely understand it takes a few days for the cable to 'settle' but this was more than that. Im thinking maybe the cable i sjust wack or something, but the pedal sure does feel weird.
Flash to today, I go home at lunch to fire up the rex and drive it back to work. Pull out, clutch pedal feels weird, shift like 3 times, thrid shift foot goes to the floor. My goddamn clutch pedal broke off!
I push the car home, check it out and man the pedal assembly looks like its been through hell. So now I have to swap my pedal set too.
So, word to the wise, if you get the hydro adapter and have binding problems, get that **** fixed asap. Otherwise youll be in the hell I was and am in.
so, in short, hasport mounts ++, hasport other stuff --
-M@
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Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (mahatma)
thanks,
Ill be posting up before and after pics shortly, along with more detail.
I just wanted to get something up there for people to htink and talk about, maybe share some experiences.
as far as im concerned, the linkage still isnt perfect, and the hydro adapter sits at a funny angle. When I have tim Ill be making my own linkage, with a spherical Ujoint.
and before anyone calls me out on anything, Im just relaying my personal experiences. you may have had a different experience and Im not gonna argue with anyone about how well your hydro adapter works.
-M@
Ill be posting up before and after pics shortly, along with more detail.
I just wanted to get something up there for people to htink and talk about, maybe share some experiences.
as far as im concerned, the linkage still isnt perfect, and the hydro adapter sits at a funny angle. When I have tim Ill be making my own linkage, with a spherical Ujoint.
and before anyone calls me out on anything, Im just relaying my personal experiences. you may have had a different experience and Im not gonna argue with anyone about how well your hydro adapter works.
-M@
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Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (nowentaquit)
Well man thanks for the extra info.....man I'm happy I researched before I bought my mount kit and that's why I went with innovative mounts there design is so much better and now they have a new hydro convo part of the kit which you use the clutch slave cylinder and the clutch cable! You should check them out! You could buy those seperate no need to buy the mounts with it!
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Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (nowentaquit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nowentaquit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My adapter works fine it's just stiff, My only real problem is with my linkage it's sloppy as hell</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what Matt was saying, it's too stiff, but it works. It will eat up clutch cables and eventually your pedal assembly.
That's what Matt was saying, it's too stiff, but it works. It will eat up clutch cables and eventually your pedal assembly.
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Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (downest)
I dont have the pics all up online yet, but basically take apart the adapter, and look at the pivot on the acutator arm. If its anything like man youll see a nice groove being worked into the arm.
An easy way to tell if the problem is the same is if your pedal force is linear or not. If it gets harder ot push, the farther you go, its digging into that piece harder and harder.
To diagnose the bad ujoint, well, look at it. mine was basically obliterated when I took it out.
-M@
An easy way to tell if the problem is the same is if your pedal force is linear or not. If it gets harder ot push, the farther you go, its digging into that piece harder and harder.
To diagnose the bad ujoint, well, look at it. mine was basically obliterated when I took it out.
-M@
Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (mattminer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattminer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks,
Ill be posting up before and after pics shortly, along with more detail.
I just wanted to get something up there for people to htink and talk about, maybe share some experiences.
as far as im concerned, the linkage still isnt perfect, and the hydro adapter sits at a funny angle. When I have tim Ill be making my own linkage, with a spherical Ujoint.
and before anyone calls me out on anything, Im just relaying my personal experiences. you may have had a different experience and Im not gonna argue with anyone about how well your hydro adapter works.
-M@</TD></TR></TABLE>Waiting for pics along with details about this hydro kit. I got mine install but have not swap the engine in the Rex yet. And you are right, the kit has lots of play
Ill be posting up before and after pics shortly, along with more detail.
I just wanted to get something up there for people to htink and talk about, maybe share some experiences.
as far as im concerned, the linkage still isnt perfect, and the hydro adapter sits at a funny angle. When I have tim Ill be making my own linkage, with a spherical Ujoint.
and before anyone calls me out on anything, Im just relaying my personal experiences. you may have had a different experience and Im not gonna argue with anyone about how well your hydro adapter works.
-M@</TD></TR></TABLE>Waiting for pics along with details about this hydro kit. I got mine install but have not swap the engine in the Rex yet. And you are right, the kit has lots of play
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Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (brandoom)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brandoom »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cable tranny ftw?</TD></TR></TABLE>
once the adapter was fixed, the pedal went back to what id consider normal. once I install a new pedal seembly I expect everything to be kosher.
Its hard to find cable trannys these days
-M@
once the adapter was fixed, the pedal went back to what id consider normal. once I install a new pedal seembly I expect everything to be kosher.
Its hard to find cable trannys these days
-M@
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck. But our clutch pedals are known for being weak and breaking like that, just happened that yours was fast forwards due to the bad hydro to cable setup.
I see your point of view, but in HASports defence, it's a serious mod to put a hydro B series tranny in a cable D series car (let's face it, it is, just cause it's easy doesn't mean it's not a serious mod), and when you seriously mod a car, things are never perfect. Hopefully you get the kinks worked out.
I see your point of view, but in HASports defence, it's a serious mod to put a hydro B series tranny in a cable D series car (let's face it, it is, just cause it's easy doesn't mean it's not a serious mod), and when you seriously mod a car, things are never perfect. Hopefully you get the kinks worked out.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry to hear about your bad luck. But our clutch pedals are known for being weak and breaking like that, just happened that yours was fast forwards due to the bad hydro to cable setup.
I see your point of view, but in HASports defence, it's a serious mod to put a hydro B series tranny in a cable D series car (let's face it, it is, just cause it's easy doesn't mean it's not a serious mod), and when you seriously mod a car, things are never perfect. Hopefully you get the kinks worked out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks man, Ive got a pretty good handle on everything, but I dont agree that it shouldnt be perfect. If I want to have to fix things I wouldve went on ebay and bought the cheapest **** I coudl find haha. For the price these were they should come dipped in 24k gold with a bottle of champagne hehe.
after researching the pedal bracket thing more, you are right about it being common. Oh well, im fixing that to never ever happen again.
-M@
I see your point of view, but in HASports defence, it's a serious mod to put a hydro B series tranny in a cable D series car (let's face it, it is, just cause it's easy doesn't mean it's not a serious mod), and when you seriously mod a car, things are never perfect. Hopefully you get the kinks worked out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks man, Ive got a pretty good handle on everything, but I dont agree that it shouldnt be perfect. If I want to have to fix things I wouldve went on ebay and bought the cheapest **** I coudl find haha. For the price these were they should come dipped in 24k gold with a bottle of champagne hehe.
after researching the pedal bracket thing more, you are right about it being common. Oh well, im fixing that to never ever happen again.
-M@
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattminer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thanks man, Ive got a pretty good handle on everything, but I dont agree that it shouldnt be perfect. If I want to have to fix things I wouldve went on ebay and bought the cheapest **** I coudl find haha. For the price these were they should come dipped in 24k gold with a bottle of champagne hehe.
after researching the pedal bracket thing more, you are right about it being common. Oh well, im fixing that to never ever happen again.
-M@</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know what you mean. You payed for quality and didn't receive it. But adleast HASport is a good company, and if you show then what you did to fix it I'm sure they would review there setup.
Weld a huge brace, that's the common fix.
thanks man, Ive got a pretty good handle on everything, but I dont agree that it shouldnt be perfect. If I want to have to fix things I wouldve went on ebay and bought the cheapest **** I coudl find haha. For the price these were they should come dipped in 24k gold with a bottle of champagne hehe.
after researching the pedal bracket thing more, you are right about it being common. Oh well, im fixing that to never ever happen again.
-M@</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know what you mean. You payed for quality and didn't receive it. But adleast HASport is a good company, and if you show then what you did to fix it I'm sure they would review there setup.
Weld a huge brace, that's the common fix.
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Yeah I had tried there adpater when it 1st came out,,It was even worse then cause the adjustment was crap..Not to change the subject but the innovative is alot better
But I will give hasport one thing,they have great customer service and that counts for alot even though your car will be down for a while because of a design flaw
But I will give hasport one thing,they have great customer service and that counts for alot even though your car will be down for a while because of a design flaw
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Well, I just so happened to find the solution to your problem. Check out the innovative hydro-cable setup. http://www.innovativemounts.co...41001
I'm all for hasport. I personally will only use there mounts in my personal cars. But this is the way it should be done. A hydro trans should be operated as such.
I'm all for hasport. I personally will only use there mounts in my personal cars. But this is the way it should be done. A hydro trans should be operated as such.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cvic90 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I just so happened to find the solution to your problem. Check out the innovative hydro-cable setup. http://www.innovativemounts.co...41001
I'm all for hasport. I personally will only use there mounts in my personal cars. But this is the way it should be done. A hydro trans should be operated as such.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you can use those even with hasport mounts??
I'm all for hasport. I personally will only use there mounts in my personal cars. But this is the way it should be done. A hydro trans should be operated as such.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you can use those even with hasport mounts??
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yeah, that innovate thing looks decent, at another $250. yippee. and I cant use it anyway because my downpipe goes directly where the stock slave would work. If I had started with that, maybe liefe wouldve been easier.
anyway, like I said I fixed the hydro adapter so Im just going to roll with it.
the clutch pedal dealie, im gonna weld a piece of steel in the corner of the barcket to brace it, and then put in a new bolt sleeve and a nasty bolt courtesy of 2point2's ingenious design.
-M@
anyway, like I said I fixed the hydro adapter so Im just going to roll with it.
the clutch pedal dealie, im gonna weld a piece of steel in the corner of the barcket to brace it, and then put in a new bolt sleeve and a nasty bolt courtesy of 2point2's ingenious design.
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So you can use those even with hasport mounts??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, this is just to operate the clutch. It doesn't have anyhting to do with the mounts. It is a little expensive but, so is another trans and clutch. $250 now, or $1000+ later. If I put a hydro trans in my car I'm going to use the innovative adapter.
So you can use those even with hasport mounts??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, this is just to operate the clutch. It doesn't have anyhting to do with the mounts. It is a little expensive but, so is another trans and clutch. $250 now, or $1000+ later. If I put a hydro trans in my car I'm going to use the innovative adapter.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cvic90 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, this is just to operate the clutch. It doesn't have anyhting to do with the mounts. It is a little expensive but, so is another trans and clutch. $250 now, or $1000+ later. If I put a hydro trans in my car I'm going to use the innovative adapter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it seems a little extreme to say that you are going to have to repalce your transmission if you use the hasport adapter. as long as its working properly, I dont see why youd burn through a clutch or a tranmission. The key is getting it working right I think.
Def post up some pics when/if you get that thing in.
-M@
Yeah, this is just to operate the clutch. It doesn't have anyhting to do with the mounts. It is a little expensive but, so is another trans and clutch. $250 now, or $1000+ later. If I put a hydro trans in my car I'm going to use the innovative adapter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it seems a little extreme to say that you are going to have to repalce your transmission if you use the hasport adapter. as long as its working properly, I dont see why youd burn through a clutch or a tranmission. The key is getting it working right I think.
Def post up some pics when/if you get that thing in.
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Re: Let me tell you a story about my Hasport EFB2 kit... (mattminer)
wow its funny i found this because i have a hydraulic conversion on a crx as well.. and TODAY my ******* clutch pedal broke on me on the way to emissions i was soo pissed.. i dont have the time to fix it.. i just got it out of the shop yesterday an its maybe going back in.. they told me its 6 hrs in labor because of the slave cylinder.. is that true or is it easy an i should just do it myself on my day off? ... i bought the car about a year ago havent really actually drove it too too much because it likes to break lol.. but i mean will this happen again if i replace it? i mean it needs to be fixed reguardless.. i bought the car with the conversion i dont know if it ever broke on the guy before me or not.. if not then i guess it lasted a long time before it actually broke. i will pm you for further info to talk to you about this.