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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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well sooon i will be out of the gas that they filled me up at. Does anyone know if there is a special station they fill up or the closest one to the dealer.?

either way these are my choices for the gas i can use..

Bp 1 block away my # 1 choice but can get expensive
Citgo- 2 blocks away- Dont really trust this company
Shell- 2-3 miles away-

ps. im going with 89 because i feel 87 is crap. i want my car to last long. and also i heard 89 gives you the most mpg
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Shell makes great gas and oil, I would say use Shell gas...

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Take the trip for shell, there fuel is above and beyond what other places offer, exxon mobile stations are also incredibly good.

We recently banned boarder patrol agents from filling at ARCO stations and BP connect due to heavy deposits we see on 150k-200k mile teardowns. We haven't banned Citgo due to lack of testing on our trucks, but I've had poor results with it when tuning customers cars on 91 octane, this is most likely just an AZ thing but I get more ping and detonation with Citgo than good brands like shell or Mobil.

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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I wont put anything but shell in my car if I have the choice. Heck even the V-Power is only an extra $2 or $3 a tank.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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I really hope you do not own an Si... because it has a 91 octane requirement....
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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no i own a lx
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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I still don't get this 89 octane crap.

I've already argued against it, but no real data proves otherwise.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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some guy did a test on his dx/lx/ex engine and said he used 87,89, and 91 he received the fewest miles from the 87. 89 got him more and 91 was almost the same as 89.

idk this gas octane crap either but ill just stick to 89
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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I vote go with shell,i pump shell aswell.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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i will hunt for a shell with v power for my car. apparently not all shells have v power
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kiwibird83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take the trip for shell, there fuel is above and beyond what other places offer, exxon mobile stations are also incredibly good.

We recently banned boarder patrol agents from filling at ARCO stations and BP connect due to heavy deposits we see on 150k-200k mile teardowns. We haven't banned Citgo due to lack of testing on our trucks, but I've had poor results with it when tuning customers cars on 91 octane, this is most likely just an AZ thing but I get more ping and detonation with Citgo than good brands like shell or Mobil.

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And a Honda mechanic recommended that the best gas around here was from a BP, and I got better mpg when I switched. I guess it depends on who you talked to
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bulli Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some guy did a test on his dx/lx/ex engine and said he used 87,89, and 91 he received the fewest miles from the 87. 89 got him more and 91 was almost the same as 89.

idk this gas octane crap either but ill just stick to 89</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Octane is NOT a measure of power but of the fuels resistance to ignition from heat. A higher-octane fuel, under identical combustion chamber conditions, will burn slower, a slower burn= less power and higher rates of carbon deposits on the valves and pistons.

Higher octane fuel does NOT contain more potential energy, but it will allow you to tune in more timing advance, higher compression or more boost from your turbo or supercharger. None of which your STOCK LX civic has.

Honda, you know, those guys who get payed millions of dollars to design the car? They tell you to run 87 octane, and I think I'll trust Doctorate level engineers over "Some guy" when it comes to octane levels of a car THEY created. Plus you save more money by not paying for mid-grade.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordselux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And a Honda mechanic recommended that the best gas around here was from a BP, and I got better mpg when I switched. I guess it depends on who you talked to </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can imagine so, I truly believe fuel is based more on a persons location than truly a company in many cases, the way fuel is formulated for MN winters is different than the 80 degree decembers we can run through here in AZ. ^^
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kiwibird83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can imagine so, I truly believe fuel is based more on a persons location than truly a company in many cases, the way fuel is formulated for MN winters is different than the 80 degree decembers we can run through here in AZ. ^^</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, they give us some real **** in the winter...
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMoLiK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Shell makes great gas and oil, I would say use Shell gas...

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Shell puts too much **** in their gas for my taste, I drive about 5 miles to a Sunoco or I use the BP by my work, love the both.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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You might laugh at me, but... I use Costco Gas. Right next door to work, 93 octane, no additives, and $.10 cheaper than everyone else. We've got doctors at my practice that swear by it. One drives an mid 90's M3 and the other a brand new M6.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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personally i like 76...dunno if there are any in chicago. but of the 3, shell FTW
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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just found out amco is bp.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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ive recently started using Shell V-Power 93 octane and i dont think ill every go back to anything else
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might laugh at me, but... I use Costco Gas. Right next door to work, 93 octane, no additives, and $.10 cheaper than everyone else. We've got doctors at my practice that swear by it. One drives an mid 90's M3 and the other a brand new M6. </TD></TR></TABLE>


keep in mind neither one of those is a CIVIC. they can probably run arco in their cars and they will do fine. run arco in your car and it will tun like ****. those cars are built for power and to be abused, i abuse my civic but not like i would an m3 or m6
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordselux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I still don't get this 89 octane crap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When you use the recommended octane rating the car will completely combust the fuel efficiently. Higher octane causes the fuel to not combust completely causing carbon deposits due to lower compression. Unless you are advancing the timing, raising the redline, with NA tune, like in the older B series running higher will not do anything but change efficiency on the R18. Correct me if I misinterpreted your statement.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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as long as the 89 doesnt have ethanol you should be good. Adding ethanol only will increase the octane rating and offer less mpg since it burns cooler (btu).

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 24boosted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When you use the recommended octane rating the car will completely combust the fuel efficiently. Higher octane causes the fuel to not combust completely causing carbon deposits due to lower compression. Unless you are advancing the timing, raising the redline, with NA tune, like in the older B series running higher will not do anything but change efficiency on the R18. Correct me if I misinterpreted your statement. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, that's exactly what i'm arguing. People float in here all the time preaching hte benefits of 89 octane gas, and I don't know what the point is, it won't perform as intended, and real world mileage of a tank or two of each gas isn't a good measure of performance. Too many factors that contribute to performance and gas mileage in general. Plus if the manual says, 87, it means....87.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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in Bp it has 10 percent ethonol
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bulli Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in Bp it has 10 percent ethonol</TD></TR></TABLE>

All gas has ethanol in it to varying degrees. It's been that way for a while.
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