I have a cbr 600 f4i, and most of my friends that I ride with have liter bikes, and sometimes it is kind of hard to keep up esp when I am in the lower rpm band. It is okay when i am in the highend but I dont feel good about keeping it at like 12-13k constanly for 3 hours everytime I ride. I mean the 600 I have right now is good enough but later on I would like to get more power. what do you guys think, will upgrades like (I have a yoshi pipe already, but like pc, header, sprockets) be worth it or just get a liter bike later on?

 

Keep up? In a straight line? Who cares. Show 'em your tail in the turns.

12-13k rpms? How fast are you going? Save the big speed for the track (race or drag).

What's the saying? There's no replacement for displacement.

 

dont expletive around in the streets, looking cool isnt worth getting killed over.

 

You may want to try a sprocket change for some more "torque" when you're riding around. Or to at least move your rpms up a little bit.
I know when i had my F4i i rode around at 8-13k all the time because it was the only place where the bike felt like it had any oompf. It sounds like you just need to get over riding around at high rpms. That's what the bike was made for, and that's where it makes power.
You should have no problem keeping up with your buddies.

99% of the time it's the rider, not the bike.

upgrading to a liter bike because your friends have them and you want to keep up is dumb.

 

i agree with everything that has been said so far. what kind of riding are you doing?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdblckSV650S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may want to try a sprocket change for some more "torque" when you're riding around. Or to at least move your rpms up a little bit.
I know when i had my F4i i rode around at 8-13k all the time because it was the only place where the bike felt like it had any oompf. It sounds like you just need to get over riding around at high rpms. That's what the bike was made for, and that's where it makes power.
You should have no problem keeping up with your buddies.

99% of the time it's the rider, not the bike.

upgrading to a liter bike because your friends have them and you want to keep up is dumb.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

spend all your money on track time. thats my plan.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thehondabuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spend all your money on track time. thats my plan. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats a good plan.

 

I love my liter bike on the street. I dont think id ever go back to a 600..on the STREET. I love how nimble and light 600's are though for twisty/track. Nothing wrong with getting a liter bike just make sure your doing it for the right reasons

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdblckSV650S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may want to try a sprocket change for some more "torque" when you're riding around. Or to at least move your rpms up a little bit.
I know when i had my F4i i rode around at 8-13k all the time because it was the only place where the bike felt like it had any oompf. It sounds like you just need to get over riding around at high rpms. That's what the bike was made for, and that's where it makes power.
You should have no problem keeping up with your buddies.

99% of the time it's the rider, not the bike.

upgrading to a liter bike because your friends have them and you want to keep up is dumb.
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I am thinking about getting a liter bike in the near future. If i ever do get one. I do respect the potential of the 600, but you're right it feels like it doesnt really kick in unless i go higher in the rpm band. I am just wondering if i should stick with my current bike w. the upgrades or get a liter bike. Just riding with my friends got me thinking, i would like to have more power.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by life sux die &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i agree with everything that has been said so far. what kind of riding are you doing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ever since I got my bike the only time I drive my car is when it is raining or if it is like very windy outside. during the weekdays I dont really go crazy with it, but during the weekends are when I have "fun"; not when there are a lot of cars and people around, but when the roads are clar and stuff. not thinking about tracking it anytime soon, cost way too much, maybe later when I graduate and get a job.

 

Sprockets will definately change your mind and satisfy your lust for acceleration for a few more weeks .
Add a full exhaust and power commander with a custom map when you need more of a fix.

 

Insurance is another thing to think about.
If you're just worried about having to rev the **** outta your bike to get power then look in to a vtwin.
That's why i got the SV. I make more torque than you, and i do it practically from idle on up, but i only make 70+ horsepower.
After riding my RC51 i realized it's the torque i enjoy much more than the HP rush. It's all personal preference though.

If you can get your hands on a buddy's vtwin to ride check it out.
Otherwise a liter bike will definitely get you more torque for the street.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdblckSV650S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Insurance is another thing to think about.
If you're just worried about having to rev the **** outta your bike to get power then look in to a vtwin.
That's why i got the SV. I make more torque than you, and i do it practically from idle on up, but i only make 70+ horsepower.
After riding my RC51 i realized it's the torque i enjoy much more than the HP rush. It's all personal preference though.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Torque is muuuuuch more fun. I'm already sold, I'm getting an SP2 RC51 for my next bike.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sprockets will definately change your mind and satisfy your lust for acceleration for a few more weeks .
Add a full exhaust and power commander with a custom map when you need more of a fix.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha cool, like take a step at a time yea dude that lust for power is killer. i want more of a increase in acceleration than top speed. i dont think i ever when over 130 or even want to go that fast. it is just that the sprocket change will mess with the odometer right?

 

yes it will mess with the speedo, get a speed calibrater. I think they run for 100 bucks and read very accurate from what I hear. Besides, your factory speedo reads a little high anyways.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdblckSV650S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Insurance is another thing to think about.
If you're just worried about having to rev the **** outta your bike to get power then look in to a vtwin.
That's why i got the SV. I make more torque than you, and i do it practically from idle on up, but i only make 70+ horsepower.
After riding my RC51 i realized it's the torque i enjoy much more than the HP rush. It's all personal preference though.

If you can get your hands on a buddy's vtwin to ride check it out.
Otherwise a liter bike will definitely get you more torque for the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sh*t you're right about insurance...my brother has a cruiser, the torque is nice, but it will be cool to have the highend also. i just dont want to just keep it that high all the time for power, i guess i want like an all around bike...that will be nice

 

To be honest it sounds like you ride with a bunch of who just cruise around on straight roads/highways drag racing. Where are you located? Come ride with me some time i'll show you how much is left in your bike. Forget about upgrades, forget about new bikes. spend your money on FULL gear and track days.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To be honest it sounds like you ride with a bunch of who just cruise around on straight roads/highways drag racing. Where are you located? Come ride with me some time i'll show you how much is left in your bike. Forget about upgrades, forget about new bikes. spend your money on FULL gear and track days.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool, where in so cali are you located? i just ride with them when they just go crusing, i dont want to go with them when they hit the twistys until i get some boots. I have a helmet, jacket, gloves and jeans, but I got the knee and shin guards that you wear under the pants...all i need right now before anything are boots...saving up for them

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdblckSV650S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Insurance is another thing to think about.
If you're just worried about having to rev the **** outta your bike to get power then look in to a vtwin.
That's why i got the SV. I make more torque than you, and i do it practically from idle on up, but i only make 70+ horsepower.
After riding my RC51 i realized it's the torque i enjoy much more than the HP rush. It's all personal preference though.

If you can get your hands on a buddy's vtwin to ride check it out.
Otherwise a liter bike will definitely get you more torque for the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how heavy is your sv? one of my friends has a v-twin suzuki intruder, but that sucker is heavy!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool, where in so cali are you located? i just ride with them when they just go crusing, i dont want to go with them when they hit the twistys until i get some boots. I have a helmet, jacket, gloves and jeans, but I got the knee and shin guards that you wear under the pants...all i need right now before anything are boots...saving up for them </TD></TR></TABLE>

I live in simi valley and ride out of ojai. You really need to look into leather pants too that zip up to your jacket. I would probably get the boots first though like you said

cough https://honda-tech.com/zero...74884 cough

 

what do you think about textile pants? is it as durable as leathers? i have a joe rocket nova jacket and i feel it will miss match...plus summers is around the corner and i cant stand the heat

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you think about textile pants? is it as durable as leathers? i have a joe rocket nova jacket and i feel it will miss match...plus summers is around the corner and i cant stand the heat </TD></TR></TABLE>

Textile is worthless in a crash at any decent rate of speed (20mph+). Is your jacket textile? If so I would just invest in a 1pc leather suit, you can find some good ones for a couple hundred bucks. And as far as heat goes, perforated leather is cooler than textile.

 

my SV weighs less than your F4i.
You said you like torque, but you dont' want to sacrifice highend. Well it doesn't even sound like you're using your highend. I think you really just need to get over riding around at high rpms. That's what you have to do if you ride an inline. You're not killing it. You're not going to drastically descrease its lifespan, you're just riding it.


Here's a dyno comparison of the SV versus the F4i. Think about where you're spending your time in your RPM band, and look at the torque curve for that area. Now compare that amount of torque to the SV, and see where it starts to make that amount.
You'll see the difference.

 

that's a noticable difference, how is the throttle response on your sv? another thing about taking it that high on the streets is the high speed (mph)