Installing 4 point harness on S2k
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (iam7head)
So basically its not recommended to buy harnessess for s2k unless i have roll bar/cage? damn that sucks...thanks for letting me know before i bought them.
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (R18_believer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R18_believer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So basically its not recommended to buy harnessess for s2k unless i have roll bar/cage? damn that sucks...thanks for letting me know before i bought them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no safe place to mount the upper point.
roll over, no where to duck=break your neck and compress your spine
bad way to go imho, even worst if you didn't die
no safe place to mount the upper point.
roll over, no where to duck=break your neck and compress your spine
bad way to go imho, even worst if you didn't die
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (iam7head)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have a roll bar/cage?
the short answer: not safe to run with those without a proper mounting points</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats NOT the reason why its not safe to run harness w/o a roll bar/cage... basically if you roll over w/o a roll bar, theres a chance that the roof will crushed.. you wouldnt be able to duck with the harness on unless you have quick reflexes and release the harness in time..
you can mount a custom bracket that will hold you in place.. remove that rectangle plastic panel behind the seat.. it would require you some welding..
ask me how i know... i speak for experience
btw, you need to get the "short version" harness .. the regular harness is too long for 2 seaters..
the short answer: not safe to run with those without a proper mounting points</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats NOT the reason why its not safe to run harness w/o a roll bar/cage... basically if you roll over w/o a roll bar, theres a chance that the roof will crushed.. you wouldnt be able to duck with the harness on unless you have quick reflexes and release the harness in time..
you can mount a custom bracket that will hold you in place.. remove that rectangle plastic panel behind the seat.. it would require you some welding..
ask me how i know... i speak for experience
btw, you need to get the "short version" harness .. the regular harness is too long for 2 seaters..
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (FR-MOB: Jerk)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Jerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats NOT the reason why its not safe to run harness w/o a roll bar/cage... basically if you roll over w/o a roll bar, theres a chance that the roof will crushed.. you wouldnt be able to duck with the harness on unless you have quick reflexes and release the harness in time..
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You have obviously never rolled a car before. If you think you have the time, or the power to "duck" during a roll over, you're sadly mistaken. The G forces are so great, you are pretty much tossed around, and its damn near impossible to hang on. It also happens so fast, you probably don't even know what happened until you get out and look at the damage. ask me how i know... i speak for experience
The reason the manufactures of the after market belts do not have a DOT certification can be from one of many reasons. Most of the time, they are made for "racing", not the street, and there is no need to spend the money to obtain a DOT certification for a race part, only FIA or SFI rating, whichever safety organization's its target market is in. Secondly, most of the after market harnesses fail the "one button push" test for release, even ones with a 1/4 turn release.
thats NOT the reason why its not safe to run harness w/o a roll bar/cage... basically if you roll over w/o a roll bar, theres a chance that the roof will crushed.. you wouldnt be able to duck with the harness on unless you have quick reflexes and release the harness in time..
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You have obviously never rolled a car before. If you think you have the time, or the power to "duck" during a roll over, you're sadly mistaken. The G forces are so great, you are pretty much tossed around, and its damn near impossible to hang on. It also happens so fast, you probably don't even know what happened until you get out and look at the damage. ask me how i know... i speak for experience
The reason the manufactures of the after market belts do not have a DOT certification can be from one of many reasons. Most of the time, they are made for "racing", not the street, and there is no need to spend the money to obtain a DOT certification for a race part, only FIA or SFI rating, whichever safety organization's its target market is in. Secondly, most of the after market harnesses fail the "one button push" test for release, even ones with a 1/4 turn release.
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (DavidR)
so you qouted me just to say it again... 
your right, i haven't been rolled over before.. so that doesnt give me the right to post or something? lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Jerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you can mount a custom bracket that will hold you in place.. remove that rectangle plastic panel behind the seat.. it would require you some welding..
ask me how i know... i speak for experience
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^^ that me saying about the bracket i did... i got into an accident and the bracket held up just fine and saved me some broken nose...
comprende? lol
your right, i haven't been rolled over before.. so that doesnt give me the right to post or something? lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Jerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you can mount a custom bracket that will hold you in place.. remove that rectangle plastic panel behind the seat.. it would require you some welding..
ask me how i know... i speak for experience
</TD></TR></TABLE>^^ that me saying about the bracket i did... i got into an accident and the bracket held up just fine and saved me some broken nose...
comprende? lol
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (FR-MOB: Jerk)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Jerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats NOT the reason why its not safe to run harness w/o a roll bar/cage... basically if you roll over w/o a roll bar, theres a chance that the roof will crushed.. you wouldnt be able to duck with the harness on unless you have quick reflexes and release the harness in time..
you can mount a custom bracket that will hold you in place.. remove that rectangle plastic panel behind the seat.. it would require you some welding..
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you just said what i just said dude.
i doubt anyone can have the quick reflex to do that in a rollover, plus you can be 100 ft away thru the glass shield
i don't get you about the custom bracket, the custom bracket for the shelter harness angle? i am held in place by my damn seat
if i am doing all that, then i might as well get a roll bar/hoop that have a proper seat belt anchor/mount
thats NOT the reason why its not safe to run harness w/o a roll bar/cage... basically if you roll over w/o a roll bar, theres a chance that the roof will crushed.. you wouldnt be able to duck with the harness on unless you have quick reflexes and release the harness in time..
you can mount a custom bracket that will hold you in place.. remove that rectangle plastic panel behind the seat.. it would require you some welding..
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you just said what i just said dude.
i doubt anyone can have the quick reflex to do that in a rollover, plus you can be 100 ft away thru the glass shield
i don't get you about the custom bracket, the custom bracket for the shelter harness angle? i am held in place by my damn seat
if i am doing all that, then i might as well get a roll bar/hoop that have a proper seat belt anchor/mount
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (iam7head)
notice the 2 min difference? i posted before you did but then i edited mine... i wouldnt be able to type that long in two minutes...
"unless" you have quick reflex.. its a figure of speech...
i welded a plate behind the seat which is attached to the frame... drilled 2 holes for the eye bolts, spot welded it and secure with a nut...
"unless" you have quick reflex.. its a figure of speech...
i welded a plate behind the seat which is attached to the frame... drilled 2 holes for the eye bolts, spot welded it and secure with a nut...
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4 points in a daily driven car is just for bling.
my track car has a 4 point roll bar, 5 point harness and seat because they need them, not because they look cool.
my track car has a 4 point roll bar, 5 point harness and seat because they need them, not because they look cool.
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Re: Installing 4 point harness on S2k (FR-MOB: Jerk)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Jerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">notice the 2 min difference? i posted before you did but then i edited mine... i wouldnt be able to type that long in two minutes...
"unless" you have quick reflex.. its a figure of speech...
i welded a plate behind the seat which is attached to the frame... drilled 2 holes for the eye bolts, spot welded it and secure with a nut...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i did not, lol. so mine is still first
anyway, just making sure no noobs will talk this and think he/she can spiderman out of the harness in case of rollover
okay, now i see what you saying about the bracket, what's the degree of the mount btw?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Yosshaa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 points in a daily driven car is just for bling.
my track car has a 4 point roll bar, 5 point harness and seat because they need them, not because they look cool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
amen, my sparco 4 pts is sitting in the garage for the school months
"unless" you have quick reflex.. its a figure of speech...
i welded a plate behind the seat which is attached to the frame... drilled 2 holes for the eye bolts, spot welded it and secure with a nut...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i did not, lol. so mine is still first
anyway, just making sure no noobs will talk this and think he/she can spiderman out of the harness in case of rollover
okay, now i see what you saying about the bracket, what's the degree of the mount btw?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Yosshaa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 points in a daily driven car is just for bling.
my track car has a 4 point roll bar, 5 point harness and seat because they need them, not because they look cool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
amen, my sparco 4 pts is sitting in the garage for the school months
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