OK, so I'm trying to get my auto to manual conversion whipped and the shop was checking to make sure I had all the parts. Well, the question arose on the motor mounts. He didn't take an in-depth look at them but while he was searching he remembered something in his handbook and showed me the diagrams and everything.

Pretty much what was said is that there is a bracket that mounts to the chassis that holds the transmission. I HAVE THE ALL THE MOTOR MOUNTS AND BRACKETS. <---Just for the record. Now, if you take a look at the diagram below, you can see that on the very left side there is a round mount with a bracket attached....I have this mount, it looks EXACTLY like that. Is that the only thing that connects to the chassis? Or is there another piece that mounts to the chassis and that bracket? I'm thinking that's the only thing I need.

Now, for the rear motor mount. He said the same thing about the bracket. OK, I have to take the mounts back up there tomorrow and show him and kick him in the ***, but that's not what my question is about now. I was looking at the diagram below and my rear motor mount (far right) does NOT have the small triangle looking protrusion at the top of the mount. It is just the mount itself with a tiny bracket on the top with bolt holes in it. My question is - what is that protrusion at the top for, and how the hell does the mount bolt up to the actual bracket (number 8)

 

I removed that part from my rear motor mount prior to install, if anything it might be there incase the mount goes bad and keeps the engine from dropping into the fire-wall.

I've done the auto to manual, it's basicly just EX manual transmission/motor mounts, at least for my SE it was.

If you have everything in that picture you're good to go, and that triangle piece isn't 100% necessary, in my opinion it's just added weight.

 

Thanks bro, that's a relief. The mount will bolt up directly to the bracket then? I couldn't figure out how it mounted up, but that's not my job

**Also, is it a direct bolt up onto the chassis? Or do you need to drill holes?


Modified by 98savage at 5:53 AM 4/20/2007

 

OK, I took the mounts up to him today and he said that wasn't what he was talking about.

He showed me the diagram in his handbook and showed me that the manual transmission and automatic transmission mount differently to the chassis. The automatic mounts have different bolt patterns than the manual mounts, even though they both use 3 bolts. I'm thinking that all the bolt holes are already on the chassis though.

He was saying that the rear motor mount is on the cross member and it bolts up differently....the diagram showed the mounts and the crossmember was drawn a bit differently as well but it was only a tiny portion, with focus on the mount. BUT when I look up the parts on San Leandro Honda's website or Majestic Honda, the diagrams are EXACTLY the same for the automatic and manual bulk heads. SO, the cross member and housing where the shock absorber is (where the tranny mounts up) are exactly the same.

What he is saying is that there is a bracket that is welded onto the chassis and the transmission mount will mount onto that bracket...and the brackets are different in the auto and manual. SO, in turn I would need a bracket for the manual that gets welded onto the chassis....supposedly a DIFFERENT bracket than the automatic. I've read and re-read the 6th gen auto to manual write up and it says nothing about having different brackets there. AND the bulk head diagrams are EXACTLY the same for the auto and manual. Picture below.




Number 17 is the shock absorber housing where the transmission mount would bolt onto. Number 3 is the crossmember.

So, in conslusion to this post, I have to ask - are all the parts on the chassis the same for the automatics and manuals, or will I need a new crossmember and blah blah? I'd think that there are already holes in the chassis and all they'd have to do is stick the mount on. But then again, what the hell do I know, right? This guy is a guru and knows all....give me a break.


**Edit:

I'm looking at the mounts for the automatic (first pic) and manual (second pic) and the tranny mounts have the same bolt configuration. So, that means that I do not need the bracket that he was talking about - correct?






Modified by 98savage at 12:16 AM 4/21/2007

 

IVE DONE THE SWAP ON MY 93, ALL I USED WAS PRELUDE MOUNT AND TRANNY AND 1/2 INCH THINK SPACERS ON THE DRIVER SIDE.

 

I've done the swap on my 98 and wrote a write up on another website and here before.

Get the rear bracket and mount and the tranny bracket and mount. That's it. No drilling, and switching out cross memebers. The holes are already there for you for the rear mount.

As for the barckets.. they're different. Use the 5spd bracket for the 5spd mount. People have done the swap before without switching out the rear bracket and mounts but if you already have it and/or a purist, go for it! (purist ftw! )

Hopefully this helps you out.. and good luck to you.

 

Sent you a PM, canibus.

The thing is though - everything in the bulk head are the same exact part numbers when I look them up on SLH or Majestic Honda. The only thing I could think of that is the tranny bracket is number 28 and 22 in the first picture. Is this correct? If so, they are the same exact part numbers for the auto and manual.

So I'm not sure....because if you check out the last two pictures, the bolt pattern for the auto and manual are the same - and in the 6th gen write up, it says to just put the tranny bracket back on.

This is getting ridiculous, LOL.

 

Wow this is so off base. If you search I did the write up on here for this swap in the 6th gen and had the first complete working one with speedo ( yes I was the very first one to figure this out). As for the mounts you can use ALL the AT mount including the rear mount. The ONLY one that needs replaced is the one that mounts on the transmission it self. In you pic's you will swap #8 for #6 and it will work perfectly fine I guarantee it.

 

Turbowa, I read your article on the 6th gen swap...that is the one I was referring to when I said I read and re-read the guide.

I was thinking that was all I had to swap to get it to work since everything lines up right. I still have the 5 speed tranny mount in case, but it does look like everything would just fit on there since the tranny mounts are both side mounted in.

I am going to bring this to the tech's attention and show him the diagrams and such.

 

So I bring the diagrams and **** over to the tech and he still said I need those brackets. I explained that it all bolts up the same and all the holes are already on the chassis and he was being a expletive about it. He said he didn't understand how the chassis could be the same since the rear mounts are different and all that jazz.

He told me to make sure they bolt up and go check it at the junk yard and see if the mounts fit on there and to call him to set up my appointment so he can do the swap. I told him OK, and so I will just call Monday and set up the appointment. Maybe he just doesn't can't accept that he was wrong....who knows.

 

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