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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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So i a few weeks ago i threw a P0420. I had notice before that my motor/exhaust sounded a little louder. i worried that it was gonna be the cat. but after some inspection i find this







now i dont pretend to be a mechanical genius, but im pretty sure i shouldn't be able to put a butter knife into my cylinder head. any suggestions other than the obvious. get honda parts, or something generic? will this cause a 0420? 1999 accord ex 4 cylinder.

thanks in advance.
justin
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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thats nothing to worry about. Those are just voids in the casting of the head. Thats not actually the exhaust ports.

I'll see if I can find a picture to show you what I mean.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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i believe it's these voids... pic taken during my build...

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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yeah that would make sense. the gaps are offset from the manifold cylinders.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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back to square 1
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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these are a couple pictures I used from a while ago when someone asked the same thing. But rhdune16's picture shows it better
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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that is the code for either cat or 02 sensor...for a 1999 it sounds like cat failure is unlikely...unless you have a lot of miles or put something you shouldnt put into your tank...
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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115,000 miles
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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and i do notice a lot of exhaust noise. seems to be coming from the engine bay. i have heard that cracks in the manifold can trip this code. i guess i am curious as to which o2 sensor is triggering this code. there is one in the cat. correct?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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not to beat a dead horse here, but wouldn't an o2 sensor malufunction trigger an o2 sensor malfunction code? not one about cat efficiency?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Default Re: What ya think about this? (jravensc)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cronousman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is the code for either cat or 02 sensor...for a 1999 it sounds like cat failure is unlikely...unless you have a lot of miles or put something you shouldnt put into your tank...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The catalytic converters on 98-02 Accords are notorious for failing.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jravensc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to beat a dead horse here, but wouldn't an o2 sensor malufunction trigger an o2 sensor malfunction code? not one about cat efficiency? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Typically, yes, but unfortunately that's not always the case.

Try to track down the exhaust leak. While a friend steps on the gas a bit, you can try to feel for the escaping air. (Obviously, be careful not to touch the exhaust while it's hot.) The flex joint is a common leak point.

I found my friend's exhaust leak by accident, when I Seafoam'd his car. I was giving it some gas as smoke was pouring from his exhaust pipe, when I noticed a little bit of smoke coming from underneath the car. Coincidentally, it was the flex joint that was leaking.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Have you checked the downpipe portion of the manifold?
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