Okay guys been doing a lot of research of which I fail and succeed. About a month and half ago, I had my ride jacked right at work on the very top floor of the parking structure. (pissed me off) It was a gated environment with a 86 yr old security guard. Any how, anyone that loves their car deeply will agree that when your **** get jacked, it hurts the most. So here is what I went out and got for my security. As I stated I research and fail… and got a Pyle PWD501 Remote start alarm (first mistake, should of went with DEI). Had a lot of problems but it was my first alarm install ever. (should of listen to most of you guys) but for the meanwhile it works just fine. I now purchase some sensors, a DEI 506T [glass sensor] / DEI 507M [tilt sensor] / DEI 520T [back-up battery]. Along with that I went and got the whole set up with NRG Short Hub / Quick Release / Lock w/ key.. BTW Red Stitching Personal Neo Grinta Steering Wheel 350 mm. Heheh… MY QUESTION? Now with all these sensors can I just plug 1 sensor (ex. Tilt sensor) to the original shock sensor and the 2nd (ex. Glass sensor) to the hood pin sensor?? The directions doesn’t get specific but only to an instant trigger sensor input.. And btw, my alarm only has 2 wires for the shock sensor, and it a hella small gauge wire, don’t know if that would hold up. Didn’t really feel right to hook up both of these sensors to those small gauge wires for the standard shock sensor. So guys before I make another mistake, I’m asking for advise on what I should first?? Please feel free to add any comments.

 

Yea I remember the problems you were having about the alarm. Now just read this sticky thats right on top of the page. It has the info that you need with a diagram.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1794938

 

I have that page printed at least 3 times during my install. I was studying that write up at work for days. To be honest, that site contains a lot of info and plus it had inspire me to get addtional sensor. so on the site. Thanks!! But it doesnt give me info on hooking up any addition sensors. I just need to know if i hook it up with the hood pin sensor and or with the small gauge shock sensor.

 

come on guys just 2 hard but simple questions...

 

Not sure I understand what you have now, do you still have the Pyle-O-crap or have you replaced it with a new alarm? 94

 

Splicing in sensors is on the website and in the sticky.

Get a new alarm, even if it's like a Hornet or entry level Viper.

 

dei is the way to go here..

as for splicing, i think it is the blue or green wire on those sensors which send the signal out to the brain...

 

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Yeah dude still got that PYLE O crap. But to be honest its not that bad beside the shock sensor not being sentitive. I think its deffective. Well with the PYLE alarm it has a HOOD PIN was wondering if i can use either or tile sensor or glass sensor on it???

 

I don't think anyone here can help you. Like my coworker always says, "you can't fix stupid". You said you did "research", which to you means skimming over a write-up. The same writeup that has the answers to your questions both written and with a diagram. You went contrary to my advice, buying the wrong alarm to save money, then wasting money on security devices that have been proven to be ineffective and certainly not price effective. They're in a goddamned list titled "what doesn't work". If you can't follow advice or directions, then for us to give it to you is a waste of our time.

I usually reserve being an *******, but you have been really persistent. Nothing personal. It's tough love I guess.

Being that your shock sensor has two wires, I wouldn't bother with it. I think you're trying to say you have a hood pin input. Well why not tie your sensor's trigger wires in with that? If the DEI sensors have both a blue and a green wire, then you only need the blue wire. Tap the DEI sensor's red wire into your alarm's constant 12v input, and the DEI sensor's orange or black wires into your alarms negative ground when armed output.

If you still haven't figured it out, and you still refuse to trash that POS alarm, please do what others often suggest on these forums, and punch yourself in the face repeatedly. Don't be pissed at me either. You brought this on yourself.

I need another jack and coke. Hold the coke.

 

Both the tilt and glass sensors are 3 wire sensors, if your stock impact is a 3 wire it should have a red, black and possibly a blue, use the alarms impact sensor input for the two sensors, 506T and 507T, connect both sensor reds to the alarms impact sensor red, connect the 506s black to the impact sensors black lead, connect the 507s orange lead to the alarms ground out when armed, if you are using the alarms ground out when armed, [starter cut] install diodes on the ground out when armed lead before it goes to the starter cut relay and the orange of the 507T, connect both the blues from the sensors to the alarms impact sensors trigger input, installing a diode on each blue trigger line before connecting to the alarms impact sensor input, keep the hood pin input for the 520Ts blue trigger output. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Both the tilt and glass sensors are 3 wire sensors, if your stock impact is a 3 wire it should have a red, black and possibly a blue, use the alarms impact sensor input for the two sensors, 506T and 507T, connect both sensor reds to the alarms impact sensor red, connect the 506s black to the impact sensors black lead, connect the 507s orange lead to the alarms ground out when armed, if you are using the alarms ground out when armed, [starter cut] install diodes on the ground out when armed lead before it goes to the starter cut relay and the orange of the 507T, connect both the blues from the sensors to the alarms impact sensors trigger input, installing a diode on each blue trigger line before connecting to the alarms impact sensor input, keep the hood pin input for the 520Ts blue trigger output. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

My shock sensor is consist of only 2 wires [black/white] assuming black is ground and white is power. would it still apply?? Black = Ground, Red = 12V, and Blue = shock sensor [WHITE wire]....BTW This is all I really needed. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;FCM&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt ;

 

Can anyone confirm this diagram? This is what I will be setting up the sensors and wanted to know what I’m missing or what I need to add to secure what I’m doing.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....qyqyh

On the battery module black = ground / red = 12 v constant (obviously)

 

come on anyone...

 

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The only way your alarms shock sensor could work at all with only 2 wires is that it is a simple "tilt" switch ground in, [black] and trigger ground out, [white] or one of the wires is coax, [like a power lead for a radar detector] or possibly some "new" fiber optic/digital whatever technology I have not heard of.

Does the shock sensor plug into the alarm, if so, how many terminals?

Your diagram is wrong, the DEI 507M tilt sensor has a red, blue lead, and orange there is no black ground lead, only the black programming loop.
Red is 12V+ constant, blue is trigger and orange is "turn on input", it should be connected to the ground out when armed lead of the alarm, not 12V+

You do not need a diode on the blue trigger line from the DEI 520T, the hood pin-switch can not interfere with the output of the back up batt.
You do however need one on the shock sensors trigger output, just like the 506T and 507M and they need only 1A diodes.
I also do not see the alarms power lead from the DEI 520T, [gray if I remember]. 94

 

I just realized it and you are correct. My diagram indicated some incorrect information.

As for the shock sensors, YES it plugs directly to the alarm there is only 1 terminal with 2 wires [black/white].

On the TILT sensor Orange was shown on the orginal install document to a 12v constant I had thought that would of been directly to battery or something with contant 12V. Also the wires on my diagram I for got, there is no BLACK wire.

I was not able to find a 1A DIODE at my local Radio Shack, only item came close to that was a 3AMP DIODE. Will there be any issues using something higher??? OR it is highly recommended by your self to use only a 1A??

As for the 520T, IT IS A GRAY WIRE.... also, with the blue wire, should I just connect it directly to the shock sensor as well with a 1A diode??

With my the PYLE PWD 501 it has an addition port for any added sensors I dont know if that plays a lot with everything Im doing. Obviously the ports are not compatiable with the sensors I've purchase. But at the moment Im working on it and will be till Sunday afternoon. I'll go ahead try what you have suggest and let you know how everything turns out. Again, thanks for the advice.

 

You can connect the orange of the tilt sensor to 12V+, but it has to be "true ign., [hot in run and start], when you turn the ign. off the sensor "sees" the unpowered ign. circuit as a ground, turning the tilt sensor on.

If your alarm has an extra sensor input, use it for the tilt and glass sensors and you will only have to isolate them from each other, you need to do nothing with the alarms shock sensor or it's wiring.
Unless you have the plug and pigtail for the extra sensor input, try and find one.
How many pins in the extra sensor input?

No, do not connect the backup battery trigger output, [blue] along with the tilt and glass sensor or the alarms impact sensor, connect it to the alarms hood pin input along with the hood pin, no diode is needed.

Speaking of diodes, if you are using the ground out when armed for a starter cut relay, you will have to install 2 diodes on the line, one going to the starter cut relay and the other to the orange of the tilt sensor.
And 3A diodes should not be a problem, but if there is a problem with anything that has a diode on it's output, the first thing I would do is change the diodes. 94

 

OKAY!! FINALLY, I did everything you said connecting both sensor to the shock sensor. Unfortunatly, it does not work. I dont know if its my sensor plug or the sensor itself. Before this whole install I've found a CLIFFORD ACE 300 Magnetic Ronance Shock Sensor, I had it tap into the orginal shock sensor. BLACK = GROUND / RED = 12V CONTANT ORANGE = TRIGGER (??).. It work very well and very sensitive to any disturbance. NOW, its not working. So I have try 3 ways:

1. Retap all lines = BLACK = GROUND / RED = 12V CONTANT ORANGE = WHITE including the 3AMP diodes &gt;&gt;&gt;NOT WORKING.
2. In-case I have a faulty shock sensor, I remove the orginal factory sensor and plug those BLACK/WHITE wires to the Clifford ACE 300 shock sensor. That did not work..
3. I then tap it to the HOOD PIN sensor with diodes and still not working.

What should I do with the Shock sensor???

NOW, coming back to the other sensors [TILT / GLASS] I have connect it directly to the HOOD PIN sensor and it works perfectly. I have tried out both with keys to the window and jacking up the car. Its amazing, its finally coming together.... I might just leave it that way before I run into more issues. (+) its a crappy alarm.

At the moment Im working on the back up battery. Hopefully the Hood pin is my solutiion for all 3 sensors.. I will keep you posted on the outcome. Im stuck about the shock sensor. I think that suckers is out or i did something wrong..

 

"What should I do with the Shock sensor???" Throw it away you do not need both a glass sensor and a shock sensor. 94

 

To be honest, that sensor or plug for the sensor was not working...I have connected all my sensors and back-up battery on to 1 trigger sensor [hood pin]. everything now is working just fine the way I wanted. I really appreciate all your support and assistants to finally complete this install. You got my for knowing your **** and locking your knowledge down... Again, good looking out....