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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Default 5 spd fill and drain plugs and also ...milky fluid?

Is there ANY reason why honda couldn't just use the ratched head hole of the drain plug for the fill plug instead of using a 17mm head? Is it because it is hard to get to? I just changed my fluid but all I did was remove my MILKY old fluid through the drain hole, and refilled 2 qts of Honda MTF though the VSS hole. Honda said just pour in all 2qts. I'm hoping I'm at a correct level? And should I drain and refill this tranny one more time since for some reason the old fluid was milky? This tranny has 36,000 miles on it. Just had my car converted from automatic. The tranny sat in my shed for 4 years with the same old fluid... Shifting now feels like I am cutting through butter with a hot butter knife. So smooooooooooth! Err... I should have first bought a bunch of 10-30w oil and flushed the tranny, THEN use the good honda stuff Should I drain and refill again? I plan to only use Honda MTF as well for the life of this tranny. (s40 tranny....D16Y7...long *** geared tranny)
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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If you're filling through the VSS, you should still open the fill hole and fill until it begins to overflow. If your fluid was in particularly bad shape ("milky" to me implies that water somehow found its way in, so you may want to investigate that), you could try another drain and refill.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're filling through the VSS, you should still open the Fill hole and fill until it begins to overflow. If your fluid was in particularly bad shape ("milky" to me implies that water somehow found its way in, so you may want to investigate that), you could try another drain and refill. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Thanks. Wrote that in too much of a hurry.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Not to thread jack, but I have a question regarding switching fluids...

I don't think my tranny fluid has been changed in many many many many 10's of thousands of miles... So would it be wise to switch the fluid, drive a few days, then switch again?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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That's really not necessary. You should be fine just doing a normal fluid replacement.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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I'm only asking because if there are metal shavings in there (since it hasn't been replaced in an incredibly long time), I imagined that it would be wise to flush/re-fill twice to ensure as many metal shavings are removed as possible.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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if I am not mistaken, it takes 1.9 qts, so just below 2 qt. You should be fine. I would take out the fill plug (a small stream of oil should run out since you have two quarts) and see if it is still milky. If it isn't then just leave it alone, if its still milky, then change again. How much did you pay for your honda oil anyways? I have 3/4 of a case out in the shed.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm only asking because if there are metal shavings in there (since it hasn't been replaced in an incredibly long time), I imagined that it would be wise to flush/re-fill twice to ensure as many metal shavings are removed as possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most metal shavings or particles would stick to the magnet contained in the transmission. If you want to "flush" it out by doing a double fluid change, it certainly won't hurt though.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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thanks. I'm outta here
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