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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Default More suspension travel. Front wishbone specific.

With everyone trying to get more suspension travel out of their coilovers, an ingenious idea occured to me. Why doesnt any company come up with a front wishbone that is shorter than stock. They would be cheap, just a piece of metal really, no bushings etc. to deal with, and would solve a lot of peoples problems. Does anyone make this? and if not, would their be a problem with it? just a thought...
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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because its not cheap.

there is someone that makes some colorful steel box frame stuff. im sure someone has a link.

but its not cheap.


and then youre limited to the travel of the shocks. i think youd have to have both modified together in order for the goal to be acheived. they dont have to come fro mthe same manufacturer (knuckle and shocks) but you cant ignore one or the other.

and then you have to think of the consequences to the change in suspension geometry and handling dynamics. upper and lower control arm angles are crucial when designing a proper double wishbone suspension.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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HMM, after further in depth research (sharting around) i realized that these were once available. I think the company was suspension techniques? maybe? anyone run them?
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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ah.. i totally misread your post. i thought you were saying shortened knuckle.

yeah, suspension techniques did make a pair. wonder why theyre not making them anymore? they couldnt make them durable enough.

when you can just lower the shock in the wishbone for free, why would you really want to buy something to accomplish the same thing anyway.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ah.. i totally misread your post. i thought you were saying shortened knuckle.

yeah, suspension techniques did make a pair. wonder why theyre not making them anymore? they couldnt make them durable enough.

when you can just lower the shock in the wishbone for free, why would you really want to buy something to accomplish the same thing anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ahh I see. The reason i was asking was for people with coilovers that cant be lowered in the wishbone (buddy club for example). Doesnt really matter, ill be upgrading to GC/Koni's soon. Just wanted to explore another option. thanks
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Default Re: More suspension travel. Front wishbone specific. (Tyson)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and then you have to think of the consequences to the change in suspension geometry and handling dynamics. upper and lower control arm angles are crucial when designing a proper double wishbone suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So, wouldn't a 1" shorter knuckle, combined with 1" longer UCA bushings (I'm thinking DC chassis here, where the bushing bolts up into the chassis, thus relocating the pivot point down 1") nearly preserve the factory LCA to UCA angle, allow more suspension travel (assuming shock travel isn't an issue), and only have the negative consequence of slightly moving the IC further in towards the centerline and vertically based on ride height (LCA angle in relationship to the ground)?

Eh, I'm just overthinking it because I wish I could run my GSR lower than I reasonably can as is.
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