I might be a fool but thats some power. How do I swap a D-Series motor and put the H22A in?

 

 

^ that is funny as hell... that should be posted at the main page before you can enter this forum!

 

 

last time I made a "Search you Noob " post I got a % point taken ...contact ExplicitSpeed, they seem to have the H22CRX game down to a Tee

 

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Yeah so did I. You should search though. I mean this board is old, as hell. Just about everything has been covered.

 

Some one asked this question 2 days before you. Please search next time!

 

aight fine I get it...thanks for the "help"

 

A number of posts have been deleted.

The offences caused by the stupid posts making fun of the new guy are worse than the new guy's original query.

Help people by pointing out their mistakes, and by pointing out where to go to get the right information. If somebody's new, he's not necessarily going to know how to search properly.

Cut new people a break and help them. Don't just sit back and flame without giving any information.

 

Hey George, the last post you deleted from me was only saying to the person above for their flame.

WHAT IS YOUR FASCIST PROBLEM?

EDIT: And before you go and take this one too, take yours down as well because it doesn't contribute to the tech or the thread as well, thank you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey George, the last post you deleted from me was only saying to the person above for their flame.

WHAT IS YOUR FASCIST PROBLEM?

EDIT: And before you go and take this one too, take yours down as well because it doesn't contribute to the tech or the thread as well, thank you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why are you getting your panties in such a bunch? It's an online forum, who cares if your post that had zero information got deleted, you gonna cry about it that much to call someone you don't know (and could possibly be of jewish religion) a fascist?

I think you got bigger problem then a deleted post. George is just trying to get the quality of the posts up and saying 'search noob' is not a quality post.

 

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Why are you getting your panties in such a bunch? It's an online forum, who cares if your post that had zero information got deleted, you gonna cry about it that much to call someone you don't know (and could possibly be of jewish religion) a fascist?

I think you got bigger problem then a deleted post. George is just trying to get the quality of the posts up and saying 'search noob' is not a quality post.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No kidding, so you are calling the kettle as black as the pot here then. The problem is "fascist" not the person, reading comprehension man.

What a winner. And as you just so eloquently put it, he can come in here and dock you and delete you as well?

 

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No kidding, so you are calling the kettle as black as the pot here then.

What a winner. And as you just so eloquently put it, he can come in here and dock you and delete you as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Could honestly care less if he did cause I'm an adult, and I can deal with have 1 less post and 1 less percentile. It won't harm my chances of getting anywhere in the real world, and the real honda guys check your post for knowledge, not your post counts, percentile and date of registry.

Anyways, to get back on topic.

Swapping an H series into a EF is a tight squeeze but can be done. I never did it but I've seen a few. From what I gather it's a semi custom job.

I do know you need to custom:

- Axles, H inner, B outers, axle shop made for your setup (some companies offer them now)
- Shifter, H series uses cable trannies, we have a linkage tranny, you will need to modify that part
- Clutch, H series is a hydro clutch, our cars are cable. Kits exist to modify it, but it's still a pain and expensive, and I've read that the cable wear out faster with the hydro to cable kits.
- Frame rail and I beleive some firewall area need to be either notched or pushed in to allow proper room. You have to bash the frame to fit a B series in some cases so it's not a big deal.
- Wiring harness, do to the location of some sensors, and the addind of sensor (vtec, vtec oil, knock, IAB, relocationg of alternator and more) requires a good bit of wiring knowledge, if you don't feel like dealing with it, http://www.rywire.com is your friend.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

 

I say that from now on, you can only search, and not post for the first year of membership on H-T. I think that will cut back on all the problems, us Vets, are facing here. Now it has turned Johnny Utah, against the Canadian. 90% of every new topic has been discussed before. I just made a post about Moton shocks last night. Guess what I searched first, there is nothing about Moton shocks on a CRX on this board so I made a new thread, now there is one. For noobs. H22 swaps are old as hell, I'm sure I posted in at least 10 threads about it. Search, and ye shall find.

 

Yeah, Johnny Utah'ns and Canadians are about the same on the food chain...ROFL

I love your pet name for me Bart, it shows me that you care......

 

For every noob question, there are about 10 "go search" replies... What does that tell you? Your "go search" comments are 10x as worthless as any post by a noob... And take up just as much space... When someone does do a search what do they find? More people telling a noob to search! Reply with some useful info, or don't reply at all... Just my .02 cents anyways...

As for your question bro, it can be done... But like we discussed on the phone the money you save doing an H22 swap and then some will just go into suspension mods to get it to handle like it should... It's alot of power... I'd do it, but probably not in my daily driver... Knowing you and your plans for the car, I think a B18C1 would be your best bet... And if thats not enough, boost it...

 

i have an h22 crx, and i used the explicitspeedperformance.net mount kit which came with EVERYTHING that i needed to get the engine mounted. the kit also came with a traction bar, alternator relocate kit, and the hydro to cable swap. they also have a relatively stock axle configuration that you can use, so axles wont cost too much. they also recommend using rywire for the wire harness swap which is about $300+, i went even more simple and just bought all of the stuff from locash for just over $200. the guy that runs the shop is named jon gordon, he knows his stuff, you should call him and see what he can do for you. he can even do the mount kit for a h2b, running a b series trans on the h series engine. which if you look in the new dsport magazine, there is a article in there about how the h2b (which costs, according to them, $3,000) is the k series killer that costs $7,000.00 less then a complete k20 swap. so its something to think about.

alot of people on this froum will tell you not to do the swap, but i say do it. alot of people complain that the h series is WAY heavier then a b series, the h22 only weighs 35 pounds more then the b series engines. to negate that you could relocate your battery to the back, get a carbon fiber hood, and take everything out of the engine bay that isnt needed. some people also complain about the fact that since there is a SLIGHT weight difference that the car will understeer, to fix that....... just dont buy some crappy suspension setup and run a bigger rear sway bar and keep the front sway bar stock, and than get the h22 lsd transmission, tranny code: m2b4, that will help make the more neutral. a friend of mine who had bolt-ons and drag radials ran a 12.3 at MIR a few years back, he had a crx with a h22 and a lsd transmission.

 

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yeah, me too. Dont realy care, but dumb if you ask me. I thought since I am a noob i could tell the other ones to search, but i guess not.

 

I got a point taken away because of my response to this thread too.

I agree my "oompa loompa" comment in no way shape or form helped the OP. I broke rule number 1. covered under the "post whoring" section of the user agreement terms and conditions.

"1.Posts which contain no relevant contribution to the thread, topic, or site. "

But i believe this whole thread falls under rule 4's catagory...

"4.Posts/Threads that are meaningless and lack the ability to elicit thought-provocative responses."

Maybe thats the reason for all the pissed off replies? And if so, give me my damn point back George!

 

hey bro, i read the last part of your thread of a H22 crx running a 12.3. Thats pretty fast considering it had bolt-ons. I was just curious about what type of bolt-ons other than headers, intake, exhaust, it had since i was considering this setup for my crx. Thanks.

 

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And take up just as much space...

When someone does do a search what do they find? More people telling a noob to search! Reply with some useful info, or don't reply at all....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly.

 

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- Wiring harness, do to the location of some sensors, and the addind of sensor (vtec, vtec oil, knock, IAB, relocationg of alternator and more) requires a good bit of wiring knowledge, if you don't feel like dealing with it, http://www.rywire.com is your friend.
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Good post. the wiring is actually exactly the same as a GSR plus some extending. For simplicity sake I suggest that people start off with a civic (P28 for example) ECU that is tuned for an H22A. This will eliminate the knock, egr and IAB features of the H22 which are useless IMO.

You have a few options for stuffing an H22 under the hood:

Kit - Search for the following..
Hasport
Explicit Speed
Custom
User: 2point2 ()

H2B - meaning you use an H22A with a B-Series transmission. You'll find everything you need in the Hybrid section of HT.

Hood clearance, ground clearance and axles are some key things you'll want to search for with each option.

Stick to the hybrid section and you should be good to go.

 

bump

 

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damn dawg that sucks you got bashed for n00b bashing

 

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Good post. the wiring is actually exactly the same as a GSR plus some extending. For simplicity sake I suggest that people start off with a civic (P28 for example) ECU that is tuned for an H22A. This will eliminate the knock, egr and IAB features of the H22 which are useless IMO.
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IMO, the IAB feature is useful, much better response and power in the lower RPM range. For a car driving around town, you'll want it.
For a swapper in CA, wiring up everything, including the EGR using a p13 is required to pass a BAR station inspection.