Why I wouldn't deal with Valleysyder
Hi HT,
I will preface this by saying:
1. I will only tell you what happened
2. The dates used are approximate.
3. This will be very long. Grab some popcorn.
1/19/07: I make a deal with Valleysyder to buy a 97 Civic for $3800 with the Konig wheels or $3500 with steelies. I decide to go with the Konig wheels since he said he’d have to get some steelies since he didn’t have any. (http://www.hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1864063) We also agree he will deliver my car to CT from his place in RI. All this was done through AIM.
1/20/07: I receive my car just as he said. It’s about 9:30 pm. I look over the car quickly. Everything looks good. I give him $3800 cash.
1/21/07: The next day I come out and the rear tires were both flat. I replace all 4 wheels with some steelies my friend had. Upon closer inspection one rear wheel had a big chip on the lip with a crack on the inside and the other was bent and had a crack on the inside. I to call Valleysyder but I didn’t save his number so I waited until he came on AIM. When he did, I contacted him, he responded but I didn’t have time to tell him the situation because I got an important phone call and he signed off before I finished the call.
Between 1/21/07-2/7/07, I waited for him to come on AIM, but he never does. I send out emails to two of his email addresses explaining the damaged wheels with pictures. No reply.
2/8/07: I decide to add his AIM sn to another one of my AIM accounts. Viola, he’s there. I came to the conclusion that he blocked me. I say, “hi” using my other sn. He has an away message with a phone number. I call the number, he picks up. I explain the situation and asked why he blocked me. He says he didn’t and AIM must have screwed up when he upgraded to the new AIM. He says he’s very busy and he has to go, I say, “I will call you back”.
Later that night he replies back through AIM. “Who is this?” I tell him who I am and we talk for a while. I said I want $450 through Paypal: $300 because that’s the difference between the price of the car with Konigs and without the Konigs, $100 to buy new wheels and $50 to split the difference on shipping/paypal to ship the Konigs back. He says no because he says he has no money. Instead, he says he’ll give me some mint GSR flower wheels and $50 and I keep the Konigs. I say fine. We make a deal to meet up next week.
2/10/07-2/25/07: I call so we can set up a meeting time. No answer. I call and call and call and then call some more. No answer. I check on AIM. He doesn’t come on anymore. I find his real phone number that I found on a thread on HT. I call him and he picks up. He blames me for not calling him and setting up a time. I say I call him all the time. He says he very busy. He says we’ll meet up next week. I tell him I’ll drive to his place to pick it up so it’ll make things easier.
2/28/07-3/26/07: I call and call and call again. Doesn’t pick up. He doesn’t come on AIM either. I decide to add his AIM sn on another one of my AIM accounts. Viola, he’s there. I message him. Now I know he’s trying to avoid me. He gives me more excuses and tells me it’s my fault for not calling him and he’s a busy man. (In my opinion, someone that has time to check his Myspace everyday doesn’t qualify as being busy.) He says, “next week”.
3/26/07-4/2/07: I call him to set something up. Communication improves he picks up once in a while and even returns my calls sometimes. I say I will pick the wheels/cash up tomorrow 4/3/07. He says, “fine, call me after 3”
4/3/07: I start my 2.5 hr drive to RI. I decide to go to the Clinton outlets with my gf while I’m at it. At 3:30pm I call him. And this is how the call went:
Me: Hi Don. It’s me Tim.
Don: Tim. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
Me: Hi can you hear me.
Don: hello. Hello hello hello. CLICK.
In the next hour, I call him about 30 times and they all go directly to his voicemail. I decide to continue onwards to RI. At about 5pm I get to RI and he finally picks up and tells me he’s was at a meeting that ended at 3:30. Also that he went through a tunnel which is why he didn’t have service. Also that he’s in Boston. I’m thinking WTF. Of course he blames me again. Saying I should have called. I say I will wait. He says he’ll be there in 2.5 hrs. Two and a half hours pass and I call, he says he’s still in Boston and that traffic isn’t moving. I say fine. I’m still here. Then I call about 10 times and he doesn’t pick up. At around 9:20 he picks up when I use my gf’s phone to call. He says he’s still driving and doesn’t want to meet up anymore. He says he’s tired. I say I will drive to your house and he still says no. And of course blames me some more. He says to come back tomorrow. I’m not gonna come back the next day or any other day to get stood up again. So I say to send me $350 via paypal since the wheels are worth $300 + the $50 he owes me anyways. He says, “Fine. call me tonight when I get home and I’ll paypal you the money.” I call him about 10 times and no one picks up.
4/4/07: I AIM him. He blocks me. That’s 4 blocked sn’s. I call him numerous times and he doesn’t pick up.
4/7/07: I AIM him using a different sn.
Me: Hi
no answer
Me: ITR block
Don: Oh yea sorry, that’s sold blah blah blah
Me: It’s me, can you paypal me $350 now?
Don: why did you did you say ITR block. Are you implying that I’m trying to avoid you. Why don’t you just call me. Just for that, I’m keeping the $350.
Signs off/blocks me.
I call him again many times. No answer. I AIM him using different SNs, no answer then blocks me.
That’s it for now. I still want my wheels or tires. I didn’t want to post this on a forum, but this is my last resort to get my money and/or tires.
If you want cliff notes, read from 4/3/07 on
I will preface this by saying:
1. I will only tell you what happened
2. The dates used are approximate.
3. This will be very long. Grab some popcorn.
1/19/07: I make a deal with Valleysyder to buy a 97 Civic for $3800 with the Konig wheels or $3500 with steelies. I decide to go with the Konig wheels since he said he’d have to get some steelies since he didn’t have any. (http://www.hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1864063) We also agree he will deliver my car to CT from his place in RI. All this was done through AIM.
1/20/07: I receive my car just as he said. It’s about 9:30 pm. I look over the car quickly. Everything looks good. I give him $3800 cash.
1/21/07: The next day I come out and the rear tires were both flat. I replace all 4 wheels with some steelies my friend had. Upon closer inspection one rear wheel had a big chip on the lip with a crack on the inside and the other was bent and had a crack on the inside. I to call Valleysyder but I didn’t save his number so I waited until he came on AIM. When he did, I contacted him, he responded but I didn’t have time to tell him the situation because I got an important phone call and he signed off before I finished the call.
Between 1/21/07-2/7/07, I waited for him to come on AIM, but he never does. I send out emails to two of his email addresses explaining the damaged wheels with pictures. No reply.
2/8/07: I decide to add his AIM sn to another one of my AIM accounts. Viola, he’s there. I came to the conclusion that he blocked me. I say, “hi” using my other sn. He has an away message with a phone number. I call the number, he picks up. I explain the situation and asked why he blocked me. He says he didn’t and AIM must have screwed up when he upgraded to the new AIM. He says he’s very busy and he has to go, I say, “I will call you back”.
Later that night he replies back through AIM. “Who is this?” I tell him who I am and we talk for a while. I said I want $450 through Paypal: $300 because that’s the difference between the price of the car with Konigs and without the Konigs, $100 to buy new wheels and $50 to split the difference on shipping/paypal to ship the Konigs back. He says no because he says he has no money. Instead, he says he’ll give me some mint GSR flower wheels and $50 and I keep the Konigs. I say fine. We make a deal to meet up next week.
2/10/07-2/25/07: I call so we can set up a meeting time. No answer. I call and call and call and then call some more. No answer. I check on AIM. He doesn’t come on anymore. I find his real phone number that I found on a thread on HT. I call him and he picks up. He blames me for not calling him and setting up a time. I say I call him all the time. He says he very busy. He says we’ll meet up next week. I tell him I’ll drive to his place to pick it up so it’ll make things easier.
2/28/07-3/26/07: I call and call and call again. Doesn’t pick up. He doesn’t come on AIM either. I decide to add his AIM sn on another one of my AIM accounts. Viola, he’s there. I message him. Now I know he’s trying to avoid me. He gives me more excuses and tells me it’s my fault for not calling him and he’s a busy man. (In my opinion, someone that has time to check his Myspace everyday doesn’t qualify as being busy.) He says, “next week”.
3/26/07-4/2/07: I call him to set something up. Communication improves he picks up once in a while and even returns my calls sometimes. I say I will pick the wheels/cash up tomorrow 4/3/07. He says, “fine, call me after 3”
4/3/07: I start my 2.5 hr drive to RI. I decide to go to the Clinton outlets with my gf while I’m at it. At 3:30pm I call him. And this is how the call went:
Me: Hi Don. It’s me Tim.
Don: Tim. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
Me: Hi can you hear me.
Don: hello. Hello hello hello. CLICK.
In the next hour, I call him about 30 times and they all go directly to his voicemail. I decide to continue onwards to RI. At about 5pm I get to RI and he finally picks up and tells me he’s was at a meeting that ended at 3:30. Also that he went through a tunnel which is why he didn’t have service. Also that he’s in Boston. I’m thinking WTF. Of course he blames me again. Saying I should have called. I say I will wait. He says he’ll be there in 2.5 hrs. Two and a half hours pass and I call, he says he’s still in Boston and that traffic isn’t moving. I say fine. I’m still here. Then I call about 10 times and he doesn’t pick up. At around 9:20 he picks up when I use my gf’s phone to call. He says he’s still driving and doesn’t want to meet up anymore. He says he’s tired. I say I will drive to your house and he still says no. And of course blames me some more. He says to come back tomorrow. I’m not gonna come back the next day or any other day to get stood up again. So I say to send me $350 via paypal since the wheels are worth $300 + the $50 he owes me anyways. He says, “Fine. call me tonight when I get home and I’ll paypal you the money.” I call him about 10 times and no one picks up.
4/4/07: I AIM him. He blocks me. That’s 4 blocked sn’s. I call him numerous times and he doesn’t pick up.
4/7/07: I AIM him using a different sn.
Me: Hi
no answer
Me: ITR block
Don: Oh yea sorry, that’s sold blah blah blah
Me: It’s me, can you paypal me $350 now?
Don: why did you did you say ITR block. Are you implying that I’m trying to avoid you. Why don’t you just call me. Just for that, I’m keeping the $350.
Signs off/blocks me.
I call him again many times. No answer. I AIM him using different SNs, no answer then blocks me.
That’s it for now. I still want my wheels or tires. I didn’t want to post this on a forum, but this is my last resort to get my money and/or tires.
If you want cliff notes, read from 4/3/07 on
I know Donny and this doesnt seem like him at all. There must be some explanation to this. Hopefully you guys work things out.
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theres 2 sides to every story and Donny is one of the nicest most stand up guys ive ever met..I consider him a friend of mine so Im calling bullshit until i get some rock solid proof.
Yea, I know Donny has a lot of friends on here. I want to hear his side. I want to hear his explaination. No excuses. Why 4 (FOUR) of my AIM screen names don't work? Why out of about 150 phone calls only about 10 are answered? Why when I offered to drive to his house to pick up the wheels, he said no? especially when I was already in RI already. Why doesn't he just paypal me the money and get this over with?
first off i drove the car delivered to u with no problem with any flats at all ..but yet i agreed to make it up by giving u gsr sunflowers.
to make a bogus post about me is ridiclous.. but hey whatever .. i told u to drive down after u call me so u can get your replacement wheels ..that day i was in a very important meeting in boston and didnt leave till close to 4pm .on the phone i told u to call me before u leave just INCASE
. u decide to come down without no notice on your behalf.. i didnt get home till 10pm that night. yes i dont want no stranger coming over my house or my brothers house at that time of the night . now was it my fault that u came down with no whereabout of where im at or when imma be home..
you claim me to blocking all your sn ? is it blocked ? HELL NO SON !!!... u say im avoiding you .. ? lol i highly doubt it .i pick up every single one of your fone calls... but when it comes to people playin games and beatin around the bush ... just to get to me , when i'm an easy person to get a hold off ..i just cant deal with it .. so either come to me correct or GO FUKK YOURSELF..
i honestly love how u detail me and yourself in the aim convo ..why dont u show them the whole convo before puttin in bootleg convo on my part
Me: Hi
no answer
Me: ITR block
Don: Oh yea sorry, that’s sold blah blah blah ..
Me: It’s me, can you paypal me $350 now?
Don: why did you did you say ITR block. Are you implying that I’m trying to avoid you. Why don’t you just call me. Just for that, I’m keeping the $350.
Signs off/blocks me.
HAVE A GOOD DAY
P.S . anyone who has dealt with me know im straight up and i dont have time for BS .. i hook up all .. and SCAM NO ONE .. dont make plans on my behalf and maybe u wont be spending the whole day in Providence without a thing to do ...
Modified by ValleySyder at 4:53 AM 4/8/2007
to make a bogus post about me is ridiclous.. but hey whatever .. i told u to drive down after u call me so u can get your replacement wheels ..that day i was in a very important meeting in boston and didnt leave till close to 4pm .on the phone i told u to call me before u leave just INCASE
. u decide to come down without no notice on your behalf.. i didnt get home till 10pm that night. yes i dont want no stranger coming over my house or my brothers house at that time of the night . now was it my fault that u came down with no whereabout of where im at or when imma be home..
you claim me to blocking all your sn ? is it blocked ? HELL NO SON !!!... u say im avoiding you .. ? lol i highly doubt it .i pick up every single one of your fone calls... but when it comes to people playin games and beatin around the bush ... just to get to me , when i'm an easy person to get a hold off ..i just cant deal with it .. so either come to me correct or GO FUKK YOURSELF..
i honestly love how u detail me and yourself in the aim convo ..why dont u show them the whole convo before puttin in bootleg convo on my part
Me: Hi
no answer
Me: ITR block
Don: Oh yea sorry, that’s sold blah blah blah ..
Me: It’s me, can you paypal me $350 now?
Don: why did you did you say ITR block. Are you implying that I’m trying to avoid you. Why don’t you just call me. Just for that, I’m keeping the $350.
Signs off/blocks me.
HAVE A GOOD DAY
P.S . anyone who has dealt with me know im straight up and i dont have time for BS .. i hook up all .. and SCAM NO ONE .. dont make plans on my behalf and maybe u wont be spending the whole day in Providence without a thing to do ...
Modified by ValleySyder at 4:53 AM 4/8/2007
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First off, you didn't not say to call before you leave. You said call me after 3. You also told me you are free after 3pm. If you were gonna be in Boston that day, you shouldn't have agreed to meet me that day. It takes me 2.5 hrs to get there. I can't just shoot up there in a seconds notice just b/c you told me so.
"dont make plans on my behalf and maybe u wont be spending the whole day in Providence without a thing to do" Whhaat?? Don't make plans on your behalf? So what am I suppose to do? Just sit on my *** and what for you to call. Sorry I don't think I can live that long.
I do not have the whole AIM conversation. I do not save them. But if you do, please post them all. Because it shows people the type of person you really are. Tell the truth Don, did you not say you're keeping the $350 because I think you're avoiding me?
I cannot believe you can say you didn't block me. NONE my of AIM screen names can communicate with you except for the one you don't know about.
And you NOW say you're an easy person to get a hold of? On the phone you said you're a tough person to get a hold of and I just need to get you at the right time.
If you're such a great person. Just Paypal me the money and get this over with. I'm pming you my paypal information. When it's all said and done, you agreed to give me wheels and/or money and 3 months later I still have nothing.
"dont make plans on my behalf and maybe u wont be spending the whole day in Providence without a thing to do" Whhaat?? Don't make plans on your behalf? So what am I suppose to do? Just sit on my *** and what for you to call. Sorry I don't think I can live that long.
I do not have the whole AIM conversation. I do not save them. But if you do, please post them all. Because it shows people the type of person you really are. Tell the truth Don, did you not say you're keeping the $350 because I think you're avoiding me?
I cannot believe you can say you didn't block me. NONE my of AIM screen names can communicate with you except for the one you don't know about.
And you NOW say you're an easy person to get a hold of? On the phone you said you're a tough person to get a hold of and I just need to get you at the right time.
If you're such a great person. Just Paypal me the money and get this over with. I'm pming you my paypal information. When it's all said and done, you agreed to give me wheels and/or money and 3 months later I still have nothing.
i did so tell u i was gonna keep my money .. this wasnt the only time u expletive with me on aim .. u have a number call me.. u had a CHICK's SN u hit me up when my gf was on my ****.. u know how bad i got it .. u pretend to be others on the computer.. i never blocked u or your sn's .. its simply basically call SIGNING OFFLINE..
i did so tell u to call me first .. before u came down.. i understand the 2.5hr drive.. i toke it and delievered the car to u without no single flat .. im being good on my behalf to give u MINTY GSR SUNFLOWERS + cash .. but with this post on its way like this .. i feel like its not even worth it to try to make things right.. ..
you can not contact me cause im not always online.. and to say that im not a bizzie person to get a hold off due to me being able check my myspace everyday.FOR the record i keep my MYSPACE signed on .. just like i do with honda-tech ..
i did so tell u to call me first .. before u came down.. i understand the 2.5hr drive.. i toke it and delievered the car to u without no single flat .. im being good on my behalf to give u MINTY GSR SUNFLOWERS + cash .. but with this post on its way like this .. i feel like its not even worth it to try to make things right.. ..
you can not contact me cause im not always online.. and to say that im not a bizzie person to get a hold off due to me being able check my myspace everyday.FOR the record i keep my MYSPACE signed on .. just like i do with honda-tech ..
Here's my AIM buddy list. I have 2 of my AIM accounts linked together. One Valleysyder is signed off and the other, he's clearly visable. If that's not a blocked, I don't know what is.
Your personal problems are not mine. I used a screen name that I had lying around. I DID NOT use a chicks sn. It's mine. It's not my fault that your girl was on your account and it's not my fault that she thought I was a chick.
I have a car with no wheels. I don't really think you're really doing anything extra. They are no good. I'd give them back to you but you don't want it.
Like I said, if you're such a stand up guy, just give me my money.
I have a car with no wheels. I don't really think you're really doing anything extra. They are no good. I'd give them back to you but you don't want it.
Like I said, if you're such a stand up guy, just give me my money.
i keep tellin u its not blocked.. your not gonna get **** from me .. and i will say it again.. just for the fact u keep tryin to make me look like a bad person ..adding all type of ******* ****.. editing your list .. lol come on now ?
" why i wouldnt deal with valleysyder " go about your ways.. if i dont sell parts to anyone else.. then so be it .. i still got people who loves dealing with me .. as far as u im done..
" why i wouldnt deal with valleysyder " go about your ways.. if i dont sell parts to anyone else.. then so be it .. i still got people who loves dealing with me .. as far as u im done..
lol dont u understand im done with u .? after putting words in my mouth and tryin to tarnish me on HT .. do u really think u got 350 coming your way ???? are u serious ?
u really have a SCREEN NAME - SLUTYWHOREFUKKME or someshit ?.. come one kid .. ur only diggin yourself deeper.. i really dont care who your fan or supporting role .. your not gettin sHIET .. not now, not never.. dont like it ?? read the bill of sale.. SOLD AS IS
i really wanted to make it right , but with all this hostile attempts and lies u putting in my mouth you wont get NOT A PENNY
i really wanted to make it right , but with all this hostile attempts and lies u putting in my mouth you wont get NOT A PENNY
Here you go H-T:
"i keep tellin u its not blocked.. your not gonna get **** from me .. and i will say it again.. just for the fact u keep tryin to make me look like a bad person ..adding all type of ******* ****.. editing your list .. lol come on now ?
" why i wouldnt deal with valleysyder " go about your ways.. if i dont sell parts to anyone else.. then so be it .. i still got people who loves dealing with me .. as far as u im done.. "
I guess he's not such a stand up guy.
And I'm not bad mouthing anyone. I'm just saying what happened and I think others need to know. I did not edit anything in the picture except other people's screen name. I would feel bad if someone else got screwed over and I didn't warn them about it.
Frankly, I don't know how you can run a business where you'll knowing screw someone over. And it looks even worse because you're doing this on a public forum.
Anybody local got some alloys they want to sell me?
"i keep tellin u its not blocked.. your not gonna get **** from me .. and i will say it again.. just for the fact u keep tryin to make me look like a bad person ..adding all type of ******* ****.. editing your list .. lol come on now ?
" why i wouldnt deal with valleysyder " go about your ways.. if i dont sell parts to anyone else.. then so be it .. i still got people who loves dealing with me .. as far as u im done.. "
I guess he's not such a stand up guy.
And I'm not bad mouthing anyone. I'm just saying what happened and I think others need to know. I did not edit anything in the picture except other people's screen name. I would feel bad if someone else got screwed over and I didn't warn them about it.
Frankly, I don't know how you can run a business where you'll knowing screw someone over. And it looks even worse because you're doing this on a public forum.
Anybody local got some alloys they want to sell me?
well this post will stop me from doing business with him unless he corrects the problem somehow.... sorry valleysyder but just because you dont think 350 bucks is as important as he does doesnt mean you shouldnt pay him
pay him, take your wheels back, do something and make the situation correct, very easy meet half way 1.5 hour drive each and be done with it and save your name, this thread will kill any chance of you selling anything if you dont correct it
pay him, take your wheels back, do something and make the situation correct, very easy meet half way 1.5 hour drive each and be done with it and save your name, this thread will kill any chance of you selling anything if you dont correct it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ValleySyder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i really wanted to make it right , but with all this hostile attempts and lies u putting in my mouth you wont get NOT A PENNY </TD></TR></TABLE>
I did NOT say anything that was a lie. Everything I say is what really happened. I did not do ANYTHING hostile. I did not threaten your life or tell you to F off. You did. You're being hostile.
You already decided that you weren't giving me anything on 4-7-07. This is why this thread was started. This thread was a last attempt to get my money AND so ther H-Ters can see what happened.
i really wanted to make it right , but with all this hostile attempts and lies u putting in my mouth you wont get NOT A PENNY </TD></TR></TABLE>
I did NOT say anything that was a lie. Everything I say is what really happened. I did not do ANYTHING hostile. I did not threaten your life or tell you to F off. You did. You're being hostile.
You already decided that you weren't giving me anything on 4-7-07. This is why this thread was started. This thread was a last attempt to get my money AND so ther H-Ters can see what happened.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well this post will stop me from doing business with him unless he corrects the problem somehow.... sorry valleysyder but just because you dont think 350 bucks is as important as he does doesnt mean you shouldnt pay him
pay him, take your wheels back, do something and make the situation correct, very easy meet half way 1.5 hour drive each and be done with it and save your name, this thread will kill any chance of you selling anything if you dont correct it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you very much. I was waiting for someone outside to chime in.
pay him, take your wheels back, do something and make the situation correct, very easy meet half way 1.5 hour drive each and be done with it and save your name, this thread will kill any chance of you selling anything if you dont correct it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you very much. I was waiting for someone outside to chime in.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ValleySyder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so be it... no more business for me ...</TD></TR></TABLE>
ha ha are you serious, your going to let 350 ruin any type of reputation you may have, i see in your other posts your trying to buy cars and keep selling them on here, im sure $200 would solve this problem and make it so this guy doesnt jump in every thread of yours that you have anything for sale in
ha ha are you serious, your going to let 350 ruin any type of reputation you may have, i see in your other posts your trying to buy cars and keep selling them on here, im sure $200 would solve this problem and make it so this guy doesnt jump in every thread of yours that you have anything for sale in
350 is nothing to me .. its the moral of him puttin words in my mouth and tryin to tarnish my rep on hondatech .. im sorrie with that being done .. imma let others make there judgement base on how they want.. and how they precieve me to be ...so if this post helps others in the wrong/right way .. then its already been done and said..


