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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Well, this summer I'm going to be picking up a set of coilovers for my '94 Civic hatchback (been having to save up since I'm working part time and going to school)...but I've slimmed it down to a few choices.
I'd rather spend more money on a quality product rather than waste money on something that will blow out after a year (referring to the K-Sports).

This is my daily driver and I know the ride won't be perfect, but I don't want it to be ridiculous bouncy and/or stiff.

So...I would like to keep it under $1,300 for a set and BARELY tucking tire.

Buddy Club N+ ($1,000 shipped off eBay)


Tein Basics ($725 shipped off eBay)


Omni Power Street ($800 from Omni...not including shipping)

And a few more questions.....

Would upper and lower control arms be a good thing to pick up as well? I remember Omni advertising a full kit with coilovers, uca, lca, and a camber kit for around $1,300.

And does anybody have a QUALITY camber kit that they recommend?

Thanks in advance

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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Tokico + H&R sport FTW.

Put the rest towards something else.

For a street car, much more is overkill.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tokico + H&R sport FTW.

Put the rest towards something else.

For a street car, much more is overkill.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, just make sure to get some kind of camber kits too. It'll save your tires. I've got tein springs simple KYB GR2's and it handles quite well, but it still quite comfortable to drive daily.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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You dont need to buy a camber kit...costs too much. Just do the washer trick. really makes your tires sit nice without buying expensive kits. All you do for the washer trick is you stick maybe 3 or 4 maybe 5 washers up where the shocks bolt up to the frame and depending on how low your car is going to be you maight have to add more washers.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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gc/koni
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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It is my daily that occassionally sees the track, but in about 2 years it'll be a strictly weekend car (looking into Ridgelines for a daily).

I don't want lowering springs (I like the idea of adjustability)...and a camber kit will go on the same time as the coilovers (washer trick...are you serious? )


I've ridden in a Civic with H&R's with Tokico blues...pretty stiff and bouncy...but I've never ridden in a car with coilovers...much difference?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yoffer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You dont need to buy a camber kit...costs too much. Just do the washer trick. really makes your tires sit nice without buying expensive kits. All you do for the washer trick is you stick maybe 3 or 4 maybe 5 washers up where the shocks bolt up to the frame and depending on how low your car is going to be you maight have to add more washers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ummmm...no...camber kits cost like a 100 bucks....hows that cost too much??
Anyways..also look into D2, i've heard good things about them
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yoffer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You dont need to buy a camber kit...costs too much. Just do the washer trick. really makes your tires sit nice without buying expensive kits. All you do for the washer trick is you stick maybe 3 or 4 maybe 5 washers up where the shocks bolt up to the frame and depending on how low your car is going to be you maight have to add more washers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

OK, sorry, something to correct your camber. I have the washers on my car too. But I did use the cheapy control arms on the front...they worked great, in spite of the cheap price tag.

http://search.ebay.com/search/...earch
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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I've already read about one case of the D2's busting.


Anybody have any experience with the Buddy Clubs I posted?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've already read about one case of the D2's busting.


Anybody have any experience with the Buddy Clubs I posted?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm...wow, havent seen that one yet..
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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I run Ground Control + Tokico Illumina; that works great for me.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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GC + Koni Yellows. One of the best setups out there.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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GC and Koni's are a great setup, but I'm tried of it being everyone's response to suspension.

This guy isn't going to the track every weekend. Custom rates and 20 adj shocks are overkill for a car that is on the street 99% of the time.

Same some dough, for what koni's cost you can get some good springs and tokico illuminas.

Fix the rear camber because it's the one that will be affected the most. Toe is exponentially more important to fix than camber. Riding with a wheel turned out (against the direction of travel) will cause much more wear than the tire leaning sideways (camber being negative)

Camber shmamber, it's all about the toe.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Considering he said he was looking to spend under $1300, it wouldn't hurt to just get something worth the money then. Even for a DD, it's a great setup. And who knows, maybe down the line he'll change his mind and make it a track/auto-x and he'll already have the suspension there.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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True, if he's gold gold-lined pockets why the hell not.

I'm just used to being a cheap ****.

H&R's + tokicos

Rotas etc etc.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Yeah, I'm running the koni/gc setup. I love it. I can't compare it to anything else, because it is the only setup I've had, but I have no complaints. So if you want to spend the extra dough to go all-out, go for it...otherwise stick with the other suggestions.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:45 AM
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I remember I was looking around and pricing suspension set-ups...lowering springs vs. coilovers, etc. etc.


How much did you spend on your lowering spring setup?

And with coilovers...once they eventually go out, do you buy a new strut part or do you have to rebuild it?

I'm new to the suspension thing
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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I just eBayed Koni yellows and GC coilovers on eBay....


Right around $500 for the struts

And $300~ for the coilovers


Why shouldn't I spend the extra money and have a full coilover setup?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just eBayed Koni yellows and GC coilovers on eBay....


Right around $500 for the struts

And $300~ for the coilovers


Why shouldn't I spend the extra money and have a full coilover setup? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You could also ask "why should you spend the extra money on full coil overs?"

&lt;--Koni yellows & neuspeed springs. firm but acceptable for daily driving.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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DON'T BUY OMNI I'VE HEARD THEIR NOT GOOD
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Are you sure you looked at the right ones? GC specifically makes coilovers to fit over the koni shock for applications.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d357r0y &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could also ask "why should you spend the extra money on full coil overs?"

&lt;--Koni yellows & neuspeed springs. firm but acceptable for daily driving. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Adjustability...uhh...drawing a blank.


Do coilovers ride worse than lowering spring/strut combos?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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It depends on how low you are.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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i want to know too, i would think coilovers would ride worse since there is no specific right setting like a spring.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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i'm riding daily on buddy club racing spec dampers, you can't go wrong with a quality full coilover, and you don't need a camber kit
http://heeltoeauto.com/httech/...87420

search my threads for the buddy club coilover review
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