I am in the process of hooking up door lock actuators and ran into a problem. There is no response from the actuators. There are blue, green, purple, white/black, and brown/black wires on the relay. I connected the blue and the green wires to the actuators and the purple wire to a positive wire on the alarm. There is not a red wire on the relay so I used the purple because it has a fuse on it so I'm thinking that's the positive. Do I need to hook up a ground wire? If so, is it the white/black or the brown/black? There is no all black wire. Thanks alot!

 

Is this by chance a DEI lock module?

Did you notice the 3 pin cable with the white connector that's coming out of the relay pack?

 

Yes. I do see the 3 pin cable, but I do not see where I am supposed to plug it. Sorry, I am new at this. Thanks

 

u need to ground the white/black and brown/black wires to the chassis, and unless you have a DEI alarm you will not be able to just plug that 3-pin harness into your alarm brain. If you do not see a port for you to plug that three pin harness in you can cut off the plug and tap the red wire into a constant power source, most likely the easiest source will be your alarms constant power/battery line; then just hook up your blue to the unlock wire and green to your lock wire from your alarm.

do you know what kinda of alarm you have? i think some dei alarms dont use the standard lock/unlock harness like the python 700 which has it built into the brain.

 

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It plugs into the lock/unlock port on the brain...

Your alarm did not come with an install guide???

 

I have the Viper 791xv. It does have the instructions. I had the alarm installed at a shop and it's hard to find things down there. They wanted like another $200 to put actuators in the doors so I thought I could save it by doing the doors myself. Thanks

 

As stated above, the green/red/blue wire off the relay goes to the brain where the lock wires would normally go. Those are your "trigger" wires that activate the relays.

However, it's been a while since I've used one of those modules, so I'm a little fuzzy on hooking up the thick wires to the actuators...

 

http://www.directeddealers.com...5.pdf
go to page 58, thats a diagram of where your ports are, the doorlock is shown on the top right hand corner. So since you have a dei alarm just plug the 451m 3-pin harness into the lock and unlock port.

Purple --&gt; Constant 12v/battery
white/black and brown/black --&gt; ground
blue/black ---&gt; blue wire from actuators
green/black --&gt; green wire from actuators

this is assuming you have simple 2-wire actuators

 

blue/black ---&gt; blue wire from actuators
green/black --&gt; green wire from actuators

"this is assuming you have simple 2-wire actuators" It also assumes you have the actuators "pointed" a certain direction. 94

 

Ok. So I found the port and plugged the 3 pin connector from the relay to the brain. The purple, blue, and green wires are also hooked up. There is still no response from the actuators. I talked to an alarm installer at circuit city and he said that I do not have to ground the white/black and brown/black wires. Thanks!

 

Okay, first of all, Circuit City just fired all of their senior installers across the board. That means every store in the entire company. A few of my friends/former coworkers are now looking for new jobs. The person you talked to did not know you were talking about aftermarket actuators. With the OEM locks, you don't need to ground those wires. But with actuators you do. Power doesn't flow without ground.

And second of all, well... here:

 

Ok, the actuators work now, but there are two problems. First, in order for them to function right, I had to wire the blue wire to the green and the green to the blue (at the actuator). Second, isn't the alarm supposed to lock the doors once I start off in first gear? It does NOT lock itself in my case. Can someone explain this or help me? Thanks

 

As long as they work, which wires you connect to on the actuators will depend on what "direction" the actuator is pointed in.
Ignition controlled door locks are a programmable feature, default should be on.

Feature menus, Menu #1 basic features, [feature numbers 1/3 and 1/4]. 94

 

I don't think he's talking about ignition controlled door locks, although I think that would be the best solution to his "problem". I think he's talking about the feature found in late model domestic trucks where they often automatically release the parking brake and lock the doors when you put the car in gear.

No, your door locks are not intended to do that. And if there was a kit that could do that, it would have to have wires connected to the shifter mechanism. That would be possible on an automatic only.

 

I understand, and some remote start units have the ability to program for ign. controlled D/L, and others programed for RPM controlled D/L,

The closest thing his DEI alarm has to," automatically release the parking brake and lock the doors when you put the car in gear" is ign. controlled door locks.

It wouldn't be that hard to have them work off the parking brake, even off the shifter and have it release the hand brake when you put it into gear, however his only option is the ign. controlled D/L, unless some custom wiring of relays, switches and a solenoid, [and a diode or two] are put together.

Going to have to disagree with you again, I have installed lots of switches to standard transmission linkage, [shifters] or have the linkage or stick shift "activate/deactivate" a switch, so that you can connect wires to the shifter mechanism 94

 

Cool. Thanks alot guys. I'll just leave it alone as it is. Power locks are good enough. It is like a luxury in my car now. My bro's car has that automatic lock feature whenever he puts his car in first, but he also has remote start so that might be a different story. I don't have remote start, maybe in the near future. I appreciate all the help.

 

If it helps any, I have the 990(which I think is the same as yours but with a longer range), and my doors lock when I start the car, and unlock as soon as I turn the engine off(as FCM mentioned with Ignition). All I did was wire the IGN wire from the larger gauge wire from the remote start harness. Mine is on a manual 92 civic, w/o remote start installed.

 

**Update: ignition auto lock/unlock work. In order for it to work, the doors have to be closed before you start the car. I have a habit of starting my car while the door is still open, so I decided to close them and voila. This clears things up alot. Peace