Nick Mauro (Evil Nick M) Where is my money?
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Nick Mauro (Evil Nick M) Where is my money?
First off I was warned by a moderator who caught wind of this to try to resolve things with Nick as he is a powerful moderator. Later I was advised by the same moderator that posting anything negative about a moderator is against the Honda-Tech.com Terms of Service.
Per H-T TOS: "Do not post complaints regarding Honda-Tech, the software, the staff or the servers in a public forum. Email or PM a moderator or administrator"
This is not to negatively reflect on Nick as a moderator, which I believe he does a good job of, this is solely to let people know about whats been going on. I believe I'm one fo the few, if not the only, person who has ever had a problem with Nick as a seller.
I'll give you a brief break-down before I post the saved PM's I have. I also have Screen Captures of all these PM's saved on a removable hard drive just incase I am banned or my account is deleted or tampered with.
August 2006 I saw that Nick had a used AEM EMS with CD for sale for OBD-I Hondas. It had low usage on it (under 8k for sure, I think it was closer to 3k miles). The asking price was reduced to $850 shipped, so I contacted him via PM about it (these were not saved). I made him an offer of a deposit followed by one payment and he agreed to this. I sent him a United State Post Office Money Order for $500 on August, 14. I got the next MO for the balance to him within a month. I don't recall exactly when it was sent, but I know it was within a month, which is longer than I told him it would take for me to get it to him.
Once he confirmed he had the balance, he said he would ship the EMS to me in the next week (via PM, not saved). I got busy with work (was working three jobs at that time) and never realized I never got the EMS (didn't need it until Spring when I would be tuning my build). I sent Nick a PM asking him when he was going to ship it out. I was never informed the EMS was shipped, never provided a tracking number, given an excuse why I couldn't have the tracking number (which his excuse was shot down by my UPS store), insulted, etc. It's been close to a month since the last time he said he would refund my money and I have no money. Now when I tried to PM him today to find out whats going on, it turns out he has blocked me from PM'ing him. I've talked to several respected people about this while it was unfolding so they can vouch for it from my side, I'm sure Nick will have the same for his side of the story. I also have vouches from users on here who operate businesses, who can vouch for how I take care of things. I will leave them out of it unless they decide to chime in. All I want is to get the EMS (unlikely now), or have my money refunded as he said he would (every dollar). If he wants to provide me the tracking number then we can probably work out some lesser refund (only if the tracking number is still good and I can find out what happened to the EMS). Without further ado, here are the saved PM's.
(6:13 PM 11/26/2006) Aquafina: Any idea when you'll be shipping the EMS?
(1:29 PM 11/30/2006) Aquafina: ?
(6:53 PM 11/30/2006) Evil Nick M: What do you mean when? I shipped it to you weeks and weeks ago. Did you not get it or something?
(4:38 AM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: No. Never came to my house. My dad is here everyday all day and nothing has come by.
(4:39 AM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: how was it shipped? tracking number?
(12:53 PM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: Also did you ship it to me?
Chris Tybor
123 Brittany Drive
Gray, TN 37615
(6:07 PM 12/1/2006) Evil Nick M: UPS, dont have a tracking number, I told you about 6 weeks ago I was shipping it the following week after I said I got your 2nd check. I didnt hear anything otherwise, i assumed you got it. I threw away the tracking weeks ago.
(6:36 PM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: I'll need you to get the tracking number for me. I can't just take an $850 loss like this.
(6:52 PM 12/1/2006) Evil Nick M: I'll have to go to UPS and ask about it.
(6:55 PM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: Thanks. Just get it to me ASAP.
(8:10 PM 12/2/2006) Aquafina: Also I'm assuming there is no insurance on it since I did not request this?
(8:55 PM 12/5/2006) Aquafina: Do you have the tracking number?
(9:15 PM 12/5/2006) Evil Nick M: No not yet. I went to UPS today to ship something, I am in there alot and am friendly with the branch manager, and the branch manager is out until thursday, so I'll stop in thursday. I wasnt going to ask the 17 year old clerk at the counter for help.
(2:00 PM 12/6/2006) Aquafina: No problem. Update me on Thursday.
(6:23 PM 12/8/2006) Evil Nick M: Ok, since I am kinda friendly with the branch manager she seems to be going above and beyond. She tracked via my credit card, the delivery which I wrote out for 123 Brittony Dr Gray, TN 37615, their records show a delivery to Brittony Dr, but not 123 Brittony. But that doesnt mean anything yet. She said if in fact it got "lost" and didnt arrive to you and I want to make a claim against it since there is no insurance, the max I would get is like $100. She said she would put it right through since I'm there often. She put in a request to find out if its laying around somewhere and didnt get returned or if something else weird happened.
Worst case, I get a check for $100 and fwd to you. Best case its sitting in some UPS depot and someone on their end dropped the ball. And there is the off chance it was dropped at the wrong location all together.
I'll know more on Monday, she has my cell # to give me a ring.
(7:01 PM 12/8/2006) Aquafina: K. If it was shipped to someone else and they don't return it that would be the $100? Would spelling play a key? It's Brittany but I don't think that would matter. I'm going to go down my street tomorrow and see if anyone got it, but that is unlikely since whenever that happens they always bring it to us.
(7:34 PM 12/8/2006) Evil Nick M: well, Brittany, sorry, that was my own typo sending the PM
(7:35 PM 12/8/2006) Evil Nick M: well basically they would ordinarily look into it and then decide if they want to compensate me, but she would just get the $100 worst case because I'm there once a week and i guess im a good customer
(2:01 PM 12/11/2006) Aquafina: Make sure it was shipped to Brittany Dr in Gray and not Brittany Dr in Colonial Heights (right next to Gray). Also foward the tracking number to me.
(8:21 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: It was shipped to Gray, not Colonial Heights. That was something she looked into.
You would need to look up the order via my Credit Card, sorry I'm not giving you my credit card # lol.
She said everything on their side of things seems normal, but it wasnt shipped to your address specifically, the destination is just the road. Do you live in like suburbs? Middle of nowhere?
She said she could get me a $200 refund basically as a favor and thats it. She has nothing else to tell me. There is nothing on their side of the fence that indicates something went wrong or wasnt delivered. She said that its also so long after the delivery that ordinarily they would question fraud.
I dont have any reason to believe its fraud, i didnt check any vouches for you, but I dont think I have to. I believe you.
I dont know what we're supposed to do now.
This happened to me once about 7 years ago. ******* sucks.
They just say tough ****.
I'll give you the $200 for sure, and an extra $200 out of my pocket, that way we both only lose $400.
(8:22 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: She said its the buyers fault for not requesting Insurance and a signature. But thats in the past.
(8:33 PM 12/11/2006) Aquafina: Suburb. I'm going to get off work for a while tomorrow so I can go to my local UPS and see what they can tell me. Talk to everyone on my street when I get off work, then we'll go from there. Can I have the name and office number for your UPS contact incase my UPS needs it?
(9:18 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: Well since she wants to help me out and break the rules, no lol
(9:19 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: Do you have paypal? I'm done with this. I jumped through alot of hoops and didnt have to.
(10:26 AM 12/12/2006) Aquafina: I don't want to rush this so I'll hold off on any exchanging of monies for the moment. What is the address of the UPS store you shipped it from. You can give me the tracking number (25 digit) without your credit card info being revealed to me. I checked on this today with the local UPS store. I need the tracking number to figure out anything on my end so please get it to me ASAP.
(6:00 PM 12/12/2006) Evil Nick M: I'm sorry, I might not have been in a rush 7 weeks ago after I told you I was shipping it out. I have been logging onto HT to only reply to these PM's lately.
To put it bluntly, this is your problem. Not mine. I realize people make mistakes, so I took the time out of my day to try to do you a favor. I offered a solution. I didnt buy something from you. I didnt forget to get insurance, or a signature, or anything else. I didnt forget I was expecting a delivery and to follow up about it until almost 2 months later. I was extremely patient even waiting for the payments to arrive. I have gone way above and beyond anything I needed to do to help out. I even offered to give you 50% back. I cant see too many people doing that.
I am not going back to the UPS store this week, nor am I calling again. I am done bending over backwards with this transaction that was started ages ago. I dont have any obligation to continue talking to you about this. I offered to do the right thing for both of us. I think thats more than generous. I dont understand why you are trying to take advantage of me.
(9:57 PM 12/12/2006) Aquafina: And I appreciate the offer. However I cannot find out ANYTHING myself about the package unless I have the tracking number. Yes I forgot about the package for a while and didn't check on it like you said. But you also never told me that you had shipped it. All you told me was that you would be shipping it in a week. No notice was given that it was shipped, and no tracking number provided. I need the tracking number, and I need it soon. I hate to do this, but I will give you until the end of the week (Friday, 12-15-06) to get me the tracking number and address of the UPS store you shipped it from before I take any actions. I'm sorry that its coming to this but I cannot take a $450 loss and still have no AEM EMS.
(8:08 PM 12/13/2006) Evil Nick M: No.
And what action would you plan on taking? I've already consulted my lawyer (cousin) and you have nothing to stand on. Calling your local UPS to track something down you have no insurance on to make a claim?
I will refund every dollar of yours. Since you are 13 years old and havent learned any life lessons yet. This is your expletive up.
This isnt worth the $ to me. If you want to be irreponsible, unreasonable, rude, and obnoxious, fine, but you're not going to keep harassing me over this. I have been here for 6 years, a mod for almost 4 years, and have NEVER had a problem with a transaction. EVER. Until you decided to forget some basic life skills.
You dont want to take a $450 loss? If you didnt want to take a loss of $450 then YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT INSURANCE AND THOUGHT MORE THAN 5 MINS AHEAD! Thats YOUR responsibility and and you should have thought of that the first time around.
From asking around quite a bit, you are apparently a total flake and have been irresponsible before.
I will mail you your $ before the end of 2006.
This is over.
(6:46 PM 12/14/2006) Aquafina: I'm not harrassing you. I asked that you provide me the tracking number. Something I never received from you. That way I can go to my local office and try to find out where it was delivered to, and hopefully have it returned to me. If you'd rather refund my money than provide me the tracking number thats fine. However if you give me the tracking number and I can locate and claim the EMS, then that would save you from refunding me.
(8:08 PM 1/5/2007) Aquafina: Wondering when I should be expecting the MO. Mail has been delivered for 4 days now.
(8:38 PM 1/5/2007) Evil Nick M: It will come about as fast as you sent me the payment, glad you are getting your cake and eating it too.
(8:58 PM 1/6/2007) Aquafina: I need an answer, please leave the sarcasm out. We had an agreement with the payment. If it was taking too long you could have refunded me and canceled the sale. You told me I'd have it by the end of 2006 and that time has come.
(12:02 PM 2/23/2007) Aquafina: Still don't have the MO...
(7:07 AM 2/26/2007) Aquafina: ?
(11:49 PM 2/27/2007) Aquafina: Have you sent it yet?
(7:07 AM 2/26/2007) Aquafina: ?
(11:49 PM 2/27/2007) Aquafina: Have you sent it yet?
(6:32 PM 3/2/2007) Aquafina: I saw you post yesterday so I'm wondering if you've got my PM's?
(6:50 PM 3/4/2007) Aquafina: Still waiting for you to respond.
After this he asked for my address which I gave to him. Nothing was said after that. I forgot to save this PM.
(8:28 PM 3/29/2007) Aquafina: Checking to see if you've sent the MO yet. Missed the mail Mon and Tues due to a neighbor parking in front of the box.
I tried to send him another PM today (4-2-07) and a pop-up window came up which said I am blocked from PM’ing this user.
Per H-T TOS: "Do not post complaints regarding Honda-Tech, the software, the staff or the servers in a public forum. Email or PM a moderator or administrator"
This is not to negatively reflect on Nick as a moderator, which I believe he does a good job of, this is solely to let people know about whats been going on. I believe I'm one fo the few, if not the only, person who has ever had a problem with Nick as a seller.
I'll give you a brief break-down before I post the saved PM's I have. I also have Screen Captures of all these PM's saved on a removable hard drive just incase I am banned or my account is deleted or tampered with.
August 2006 I saw that Nick had a used AEM EMS with CD for sale for OBD-I Hondas. It had low usage on it (under 8k for sure, I think it was closer to 3k miles). The asking price was reduced to $850 shipped, so I contacted him via PM about it (these were not saved). I made him an offer of a deposit followed by one payment and he agreed to this. I sent him a United State Post Office Money Order for $500 on August, 14. I got the next MO for the balance to him within a month. I don't recall exactly when it was sent, but I know it was within a month, which is longer than I told him it would take for me to get it to him.
Once he confirmed he had the balance, he said he would ship the EMS to me in the next week (via PM, not saved). I got busy with work (was working three jobs at that time) and never realized I never got the EMS (didn't need it until Spring when I would be tuning my build). I sent Nick a PM asking him when he was going to ship it out. I was never informed the EMS was shipped, never provided a tracking number, given an excuse why I couldn't have the tracking number (which his excuse was shot down by my UPS store), insulted, etc. It's been close to a month since the last time he said he would refund my money and I have no money. Now when I tried to PM him today to find out whats going on, it turns out he has blocked me from PM'ing him. I've talked to several respected people about this while it was unfolding so they can vouch for it from my side, I'm sure Nick will have the same for his side of the story. I also have vouches from users on here who operate businesses, who can vouch for how I take care of things. I will leave them out of it unless they decide to chime in. All I want is to get the EMS (unlikely now), or have my money refunded as he said he would (every dollar). If he wants to provide me the tracking number then we can probably work out some lesser refund (only if the tracking number is still good and I can find out what happened to the EMS). Without further ado, here are the saved PM's.
(6:13 PM 11/26/2006) Aquafina: Any idea when you'll be shipping the EMS?
(1:29 PM 11/30/2006) Aquafina: ?
(6:53 PM 11/30/2006) Evil Nick M: What do you mean when? I shipped it to you weeks and weeks ago. Did you not get it or something?
(4:38 AM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: No. Never came to my house. My dad is here everyday all day and nothing has come by.
(4:39 AM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: how was it shipped? tracking number?
(12:53 PM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: Also did you ship it to me?
Chris Tybor
123 Brittany Drive
Gray, TN 37615
(6:07 PM 12/1/2006) Evil Nick M: UPS, dont have a tracking number, I told you about 6 weeks ago I was shipping it the following week after I said I got your 2nd check. I didnt hear anything otherwise, i assumed you got it. I threw away the tracking weeks ago.
(6:36 PM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: I'll need you to get the tracking number for me. I can't just take an $850 loss like this.
(6:52 PM 12/1/2006) Evil Nick M: I'll have to go to UPS and ask about it.
(6:55 PM 12/1/2006) Aquafina: Thanks. Just get it to me ASAP.
(8:10 PM 12/2/2006) Aquafina: Also I'm assuming there is no insurance on it since I did not request this?
(8:55 PM 12/5/2006) Aquafina: Do you have the tracking number?
(9:15 PM 12/5/2006) Evil Nick M: No not yet. I went to UPS today to ship something, I am in there alot and am friendly with the branch manager, and the branch manager is out until thursday, so I'll stop in thursday. I wasnt going to ask the 17 year old clerk at the counter for help.
(2:00 PM 12/6/2006) Aquafina: No problem. Update me on Thursday.
(6:23 PM 12/8/2006) Evil Nick M: Ok, since I am kinda friendly with the branch manager she seems to be going above and beyond. She tracked via my credit card, the delivery which I wrote out for 123 Brittony Dr Gray, TN 37615, their records show a delivery to Brittony Dr, but not 123 Brittony. But that doesnt mean anything yet. She said if in fact it got "lost" and didnt arrive to you and I want to make a claim against it since there is no insurance, the max I would get is like $100. She said she would put it right through since I'm there often. She put in a request to find out if its laying around somewhere and didnt get returned or if something else weird happened.
Worst case, I get a check for $100 and fwd to you. Best case its sitting in some UPS depot and someone on their end dropped the ball. And there is the off chance it was dropped at the wrong location all together.
I'll know more on Monday, she has my cell # to give me a ring.
(7:01 PM 12/8/2006) Aquafina: K. If it was shipped to someone else and they don't return it that would be the $100? Would spelling play a key? It's Brittany but I don't think that would matter. I'm going to go down my street tomorrow and see if anyone got it, but that is unlikely since whenever that happens they always bring it to us.
(7:34 PM 12/8/2006) Evil Nick M: well, Brittany, sorry, that was my own typo sending the PM
(7:35 PM 12/8/2006) Evil Nick M: well basically they would ordinarily look into it and then decide if they want to compensate me, but she would just get the $100 worst case because I'm there once a week and i guess im a good customer
(2:01 PM 12/11/2006) Aquafina: Make sure it was shipped to Brittany Dr in Gray and not Brittany Dr in Colonial Heights (right next to Gray). Also foward the tracking number to me.
(8:21 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: It was shipped to Gray, not Colonial Heights. That was something she looked into.
You would need to look up the order via my Credit Card, sorry I'm not giving you my credit card # lol.
She said everything on their side of things seems normal, but it wasnt shipped to your address specifically, the destination is just the road. Do you live in like suburbs? Middle of nowhere?
She said she could get me a $200 refund basically as a favor and thats it. She has nothing else to tell me. There is nothing on their side of the fence that indicates something went wrong or wasnt delivered. She said that its also so long after the delivery that ordinarily they would question fraud.
I dont have any reason to believe its fraud, i didnt check any vouches for you, but I dont think I have to. I believe you.
I dont know what we're supposed to do now.
This happened to me once about 7 years ago. ******* sucks.
They just say tough ****.
I'll give you the $200 for sure, and an extra $200 out of my pocket, that way we both only lose $400.
(8:22 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: She said its the buyers fault for not requesting Insurance and a signature. But thats in the past.
(8:33 PM 12/11/2006) Aquafina: Suburb. I'm going to get off work for a while tomorrow so I can go to my local UPS and see what they can tell me. Talk to everyone on my street when I get off work, then we'll go from there. Can I have the name and office number for your UPS contact incase my UPS needs it?
(9:18 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: Well since she wants to help me out and break the rules, no lol
(9:19 PM 12/11/2006) Evil Nick M: Do you have paypal? I'm done with this. I jumped through alot of hoops and didnt have to.
(10:26 AM 12/12/2006) Aquafina: I don't want to rush this so I'll hold off on any exchanging of monies for the moment. What is the address of the UPS store you shipped it from. You can give me the tracking number (25 digit) without your credit card info being revealed to me. I checked on this today with the local UPS store. I need the tracking number to figure out anything on my end so please get it to me ASAP.
(6:00 PM 12/12/2006) Evil Nick M: I'm sorry, I might not have been in a rush 7 weeks ago after I told you I was shipping it out. I have been logging onto HT to only reply to these PM's lately.
To put it bluntly, this is your problem. Not mine. I realize people make mistakes, so I took the time out of my day to try to do you a favor. I offered a solution. I didnt buy something from you. I didnt forget to get insurance, or a signature, or anything else. I didnt forget I was expecting a delivery and to follow up about it until almost 2 months later. I was extremely patient even waiting for the payments to arrive. I have gone way above and beyond anything I needed to do to help out. I even offered to give you 50% back. I cant see too many people doing that.
I am not going back to the UPS store this week, nor am I calling again. I am done bending over backwards with this transaction that was started ages ago. I dont have any obligation to continue talking to you about this. I offered to do the right thing for both of us. I think thats more than generous. I dont understand why you are trying to take advantage of me.
(9:57 PM 12/12/2006) Aquafina: And I appreciate the offer. However I cannot find out ANYTHING myself about the package unless I have the tracking number. Yes I forgot about the package for a while and didn't check on it like you said. But you also never told me that you had shipped it. All you told me was that you would be shipping it in a week. No notice was given that it was shipped, and no tracking number provided. I need the tracking number, and I need it soon. I hate to do this, but I will give you until the end of the week (Friday, 12-15-06) to get me the tracking number and address of the UPS store you shipped it from before I take any actions. I'm sorry that its coming to this but I cannot take a $450 loss and still have no AEM EMS.
(8:08 PM 12/13/2006) Evil Nick M: No.
And what action would you plan on taking? I've already consulted my lawyer (cousin) and you have nothing to stand on. Calling your local UPS to track something down you have no insurance on to make a claim?
I will refund every dollar of yours. Since you are 13 years old and havent learned any life lessons yet. This is your expletive up.
This isnt worth the $ to me. If you want to be irreponsible, unreasonable, rude, and obnoxious, fine, but you're not going to keep harassing me over this. I have been here for 6 years, a mod for almost 4 years, and have NEVER had a problem with a transaction. EVER. Until you decided to forget some basic life skills.
You dont want to take a $450 loss? If you didnt want to take a loss of $450 then YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT INSURANCE AND THOUGHT MORE THAN 5 MINS AHEAD! Thats YOUR responsibility and and you should have thought of that the first time around.
From asking around quite a bit, you are apparently a total flake and have been irresponsible before.
I will mail you your $ before the end of 2006.
This is over.
(6:46 PM 12/14/2006) Aquafina: I'm not harrassing you. I asked that you provide me the tracking number. Something I never received from you. That way I can go to my local office and try to find out where it was delivered to, and hopefully have it returned to me. If you'd rather refund my money than provide me the tracking number thats fine. However if you give me the tracking number and I can locate and claim the EMS, then that would save you from refunding me.
(8:08 PM 1/5/2007) Aquafina: Wondering when I should be expecting the MO. Mail has been delivered for 4 days now.
(8:38 PM 1/5/2007) Evil Nick M: It will come about as fast as you sent me the payment, glad you are getting your cake and eating it too.
(8:58 PM 1/6/2007) Aquafina: I need an answer, please leave the sarcasm out. We had an agreement with the payment. If it was taking too long you could have refunded me and canceled the sale. You told me I'd have it by the end of 2006 and that time has come.
(12:02 PM 2/23/2007) Aquafina: Still don't have the MO...
(7:07 AM 2/26/2007) Aquafina: ?
(11:49 PM 2/27/2007) Aquafina: Have you sent it yet?
(7:07 AM 2/26/2007) Aquafina: ?
(11:49 PM 2/27/2007) Aquafina: Have you sent it yet?
(6:32 PM 3/2/2007) Aquafina: I saw you post yesterday so I'm wondering if you've got my PM's?
(6:50 PM 3/4/2007) Aquafina: Still waiting for you to respond.
After this he asked for my address which I gave to him. Nothing was said after that. I forgot to save this PM.
(8:28 PM 3/29/2007) Aquafina: Checking to see if you've sent the MO yet. Missed the mail Mon and Tues due to a neighbor parking in front of the box.
I tried to send him another PM today (4-2-07) and a pop-up window came up which said I am blocked from PM’ing this user.
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subscribed...Chris is a good guy, he wouldn't harass anyone, and as anyone can see, he is only asking for a tracking #, which is something that should have been exchanged at the time of shipment....I hope everything works out Chris.
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Thats pure bullshit.
IT IS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBILITY TO INSURE PACKAGES. IF DAMAGED IN DELIVERY IT IS SELLERS ITEM. THE BUYER ISN'T RESPONSABLE UNTIL THE PACKAGE IS SIGNED FOR.
Sorry I normally don't use caps but I do have over 2000 items sold on ebay. Insurance is to protect the seller from stuff like this and stuff like this is why I use credit cards. Paypal sucks to for these things.
If you had used a CC then you could file your own damn claim.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll give you the $200 for sure, and an extra $200 out of my pocket, that way we both only lose $400</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you are gaining 1200.00 instead of losing 400.00 how is that even Math?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You dont want to take a $450 loss? If you didnt want to take a loss of $450 then YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT INSURANCE AND THOUGHT MORE THAN 5 MINS AHEAD! Thats YOUR responsibility and and you should have thought of that the first time around. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Again, completely the sellers/shippers responsibility to get insurance on HIS item.
The federal trade commision would agree to that.
Plus how the hell is the buyer gonna get insurance when the seller is the one purchasing/printing off the shipping label. Insurance is free up to 100.00 and only like $0.35 each additional 100.00 or something minute.
Disclaimer:
I stand behind neither party and am not here to **** anyone off. But I have ran a business that soley shipped items and any time one came out bad it was out of my (sellers) pocket to get straight unless damaged by shipping company.
Since this was never received then????
IT IS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBILITY TO INSURE PACKAGES. IF DAMAGED IN DELIVERY IT IS SELLERS ITEM. THE BUYER ISN'T RESPONSABLE UNTIL THE PACKAGE IS SIGNED FOR.
Sorry I normally don't use caps but I do have over 2000 items sold on ebay. Insurance is to protect the seller from stuff like this and stuff like this is why I use credit cards. Paypal sucks to for these things.
If you had used a CC then you could file your own damn claim.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll give you the $200 for sure, and an extra $200 out of my pocket, that way we both only lose $400</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you are gaining 1200.00 instead of losing 400.00 how is that even Math?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You dont want to take a $450 loss? If you didnt want to take a loss of $450 then YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT INSURANCE AND THOUGHT MORE THAN 5 MINS AHEAD! Thats YOUR responsibility and and you should have thought of that the first time around. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Again, completely the sellers/shippers responsibility to get insurance on HIS item.
The federal trade commision would agree to that.
Plus how the hell is the buyer gonna get insurance when the seller is the one purchasing/printing off the shipping label. Insurance is free up to 100.00 and only like $0.35 each additional 100.00 or something minute.
Disclaimer:
I stand behind neither party and am not here to **** anyone off. But I have ran a business that soley shipped items and any time one came out bad it was out of my (sellers) pocket to get straight unless damaged by shipping company.
Since this was never received then????
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damn that sucks... you did nothing wrong but ask nicely in every response..
it was him that turned **** green faced!!!
bullshiet - did he offer insurance or is he statting that you didn't REQUEST it?
damn that sucks... you did nothing wrong but ask nicely in every response..
it was him that turned **** green faced!!!
bullshiet - did he offer insurance or is he statting that you didn't REQUEST it?
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From: Land of Entrapment
Re: (dr_latino999)
According to egay then yeah it can be a buyers option but that still is irrelevant.
The person shipping an item is responsible for purchasing said insurance and is responsible for the item being shipped. If the box is mangled when it gets there then there may be a dispute with usps, fedex, ups or dhl. But in a case where lost or stolen items than the buyer is not responsible for anything. It could have been labeled wrong address or illegible.
Like said above. I am not here to take sides or cause beef. I am a total neutral party in this but I do know a whole lot about shipping. I am a warehouse manager as well and I am in charge/take care of massive shipping, although that doesn't play into the fedex, ups type stuff.
I am only here to give the facts that I know and will try to look for the proof to stand behind what I have said ^ because I know it exists.
The person shipping an item is responsible for purchasing said insurance and is responsible for the item being shipped. If the box is mangled when it gets there then there may be a dispute with usps, fedex, ups or dhl. But in a case where lost or stolen items than the buyer is not responsible for anything. It could have been labeled wrong address or illegible.
Like said above. I am not here to take sides or cause beef. I am a total neutral party in this but I do know a whole lot about shipping. I am a warehouse manager as well and I am in charge/take care of massive shipping, although that doesn't play into the fedex, ups type stuff.
I am only here to give the facts that I know and will try to look for the proof to stand behind what I have said ^ because I know it exists.
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Re: (Mr.OB*GYN_Rhett)
I apologize for the post dating, I had to write a huge tax check recently 
You could have handled this like an adult from the beginning. Like not waiting 8 weeks to pay me for it, then waiting more weeks afterwards to claim you never got it. Then demanding to expletive me over.
I dont care about $850. But you were a total ******* and told 1/10th of the story
And no, I could care less about the FTC or whatever other nonsensical rules there are. When something is paid for, I dont consider it mine anymore. Whenever I buy something, if I feel its necessary I request insurance, since insurance is extra $.
If you know me, you expletive with me, I expletive with you I was wrong for assuming this wasnt life and death, which apparently it is.
Either way I'm getting a good laugh LOL
You could have handled this like an adult from the beginning. Like not waiting 8 weeks to pay me for it, then waiting more weeks afterwards to claim you never got it. Then demanding to expletive me over.
I dont care about $850. But you were a total ******* and told 1/10th of the story
And no, I could care less about the FTC or whatever other nonsensical rules there are. When something is paid for, I dont consider it mine anymore. Whenever I buy something, if I feel its necessary I request insurance, since insurance is extra $.
If you know me, you expletive with me, I expletive with you
I was wrong for assuming this wasnt life and death, which apparently it is.Either way I'm getting a good laugh LOL
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Re: (import810)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by import810 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm this is interesting. I hope it all gets resolved</TD></TR></TABLE>
It always was resolved. He just thinks this is the 5th grade.
Ask for it to be locked, delete it, leave it open, do whatever you want.
It always was resolved. He just thinks this is the 5th grade.
Ask for it to be locked, delete it, leave it open, do whatever you want.
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Re: Good job man. (sauceja)
for this being resolved.would that check have been written though if he hadn't started this thread bitching and you were going to lose face on ht
not every one is balling to write huge tax checks and 850 nonetheless is a lot of money - enough for 750 double cheeseburgers @ mcdonalds
your tone just came off a bit rough thas all - I guess hence your screen name
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Re: Good job man. (Evil Nick M)
Seems as though both parties had a little at fault so I don't have a judgement for one or the other
But I don't know if some of the PMs weren't included, but Aquafina didn't come off as being rude or an ******* if you ask me. Seems like you were the one being difficult with all that sarcasm/insults (no offense)
But I don't know if some of the PMs weren't included, but Aquafina didn't come off as being rude or an ******* if you ask me. Seems like you were the one being difficult with all that sarcasm/insults (no offense)