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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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hey my stock crank pully bolt broke and i bought a new unorthodoxed underdrive pulley. i was wondering if these things make any difference with power. i feel a difference but i dont know if its jus my imagionation. does anyone know if these things make a diference? thanks for the help
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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anyone know?
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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its your imagination.

however less rotating mass is a good thing for acceleration. nothing you will notice though. im about to buy one also, the stock one weights too much, in combination with a light flywheel
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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the aftermarket pulley is too problematic and less reliable for crappy gains. i would not go for it. stick with oem, or something that has a balanced pulley/rotating lower block crank mass.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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alright thanks for the help. anyone else have any experiences?
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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I've been runnin an Unorthodox C.P. since '99, no problems. True that you barely notice anything big, so don't call out any Porches' or anything. Just less resistance on rolling mass= slightly quicker acceleration, slightly.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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the only difference you may end up noticing would be a broken oil pump gear.

stick w/ the oem pulley (harmonic damper).
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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i have hed the unorthidox pulley set crank,alt and powersteering. i have had them for 5 or more years with no problems. nothing butr good things 2 say
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only difference you may end up noticing would be a broken oil pump gear.

stick w/ the oem pulley (harmonic damper).</TD></TR></TABLE>

i am going to have to throw somthing in here after reading posts alittle better. i broke a oil pump gear but had not even thought about that pully causeing it. thanks for opening my eyes mine is taking a hike
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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^haha.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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omg not one of these threads again.

get a UR if you want, but know the "risks". i have a set on my car, but i am not affraid to work on my car either.

to add to this thread, i have a 4th gen with a weird idle problem. i do notice when my idles dips that my lights will dim. although i assume that will be with any pulley kit.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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there are a few threads on here about harmonic balancers, check em out, it might help you make a better decision.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmlude5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i am going to have to throw somthing in here after reading posts alittle better. i broke a oil pump gear but had not even thought about that pully causeing it. thanks for opening my eyes mine is taking a hike </TD></TR></TABLE>

You have had them for 5 years with no problems. Why are you going to go through the hassle to remove them now.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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ha true that
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinecone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You have had them for 5 years with no problems. Why are you going to go through the hassle to remove them now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they have been eating up belts real fast it is starting to suck. it didnt bother me at first but getting expensive.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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underdrive pulleys are jokes, if your dumb enough to waste your money on something like that you deserve to get owned. thats just a ricers way of trying to be fast and shine up the motor when they are listing their "mods" on onlineshowoff. Spend that 150+ dollars on something that actually makes ur car faster.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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lol i got mine for like 30 but only because my old one broke off and i neded a new one so i jus decided to go w/ a underdrive
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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well if you got it for 30 you might want to becareful it doesnt crack on you, those "bargain" load bearing parts usually are made from lower grade materials. dont be surprised if your ac/powersteering/alternator go out on you one day. OEM ftw
yea they weight a little bit more, but peace of mind is worth an extra 3 lbs.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Well, this seems strange.
Underdrive pullys are DYNO PROVEN. Its also common sense. okay guys lets think about this for a minute. (thinking small gains.)
Your P.S. can take up to 10 HP to run.
Your Alternator takes HP to run.
This is called parasitic loss , you have to use power to make power.
Now, If you spin these at a slower rate as the engine spins. (Under driving)
you WILL MAKE MORE POWER
there is no question about it.
we will go over the balance part of it later, as this is minor.
Steve
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlownH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">underdrive pulleys are jokes, if your dumb enough to waste your money on something like that you deserve to get owned. thats just a ricers way of trying to be fast and shine up the motor when they are listing their "mods" on onlineshowoff. Spend that 150+ dollars on something that actually makes ur car faster.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, ricers don't understand how engines work.

Less parasitic loss = more power, regardless of how much it actually is.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlownH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">underdrive pulleys are jokes, if your dumb enough to waste your money on something like that you deserve to get owned. thats just a ricers way of trying to be fast and shine up the motor when they are listing their "mods" on onlineshowoff. Spend that 150+ dollars on something that actually makes ur car faster.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they make a diff. a small one but they do. every + hp helps.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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thanks to everyone that helped
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only difference you may end up noticing would be a broken oil pump gear.

stick w/ the oem pulley (harmonic damper).</TD></TR></TABLE>

That little chunk of rubber is no harmonic damper. It just balances the pulley, which is a cast piece. A billet pulley is less likely to be out of balance, unless it's made from very cheap material. The fluid dampr is a true harmonic balance for our engines, OEM is just balanced steel, UR is billet aluminum and I'd trust it. eBay is cheap ****
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by InvaderTrax &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That little chunk of rubber is no harmonic damper. It just balances the pulley, which is a cast piece. A billet pulley is less likely to be out of balance, unless it's made from very cheap material. The fluid dampr is a true harmonic balance for our engines, OEM is just balanced steel, UR is billet aluminum and I'd trust it. eBay is cheap ****</TD></TR></TABLE>

That rubber is not for balancing the pulley.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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I have had a UR underdrive pulley on my Lude for 20k. The block is out. What do I need to check to see if there was damage caused by the UR pulley?
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