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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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What size anti rol bars F and R for a Del Sol S

I am trying to create a synergistic effect to maintain neutral handling characteristics

Setup

15x7
Yokohama

Tein Flex
Omni Camber F/R
Omni RLCA's
Omni LCA's
ASR Subframe reinforcement
22mm Rear sway bar, blox endlinks

Password Struts F/R

What size front bar will create a slight to no, throttle on oversteer, and throttle off understeer, so little roll is the goal

Anyone with similar setup or advice on which way to go here?

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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That will be completely up to find your personal balance. I believe that your OEM sway-bar options are as follows:
- 21mm EG civic & Del Sol Si
- 22mm integra LS, GS & RS
- 24mm integra GSR, Type R & Del Sol VTEC
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That will be completely up to find your personal balance. I believe that your OEM sway-bar options are as follows:
- 21mm EG civic & Del Sol Si
- 22mm integra LS, GS & RS
- 24mm integra GSR, Type R & Del Sol VTEC</TD></TR></TABLE>

- 26mm Civic Si (too big)

If you ask me, I think the 21mm front sway bar with give it more of a neutral feeling. I have 24/22 and it understeers.

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

- 26mm 99-00 Civic Si (too big)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fixed it...
I just didn't mention it because I'm not 100% sure it works on an EG chassis...
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Fixed it...
I just didn't mention it because I'm not 100% sure it works on an EG chassis...</TD></TR></TABLE>

It does, with EM1 LCAs, which will bolt up.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:47 AM
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i run the VTEC front sway bar and the progress rear sway bar (24mm F, 24mm R)and if i take a corner hard enough i can get the back end to come around. so i imagine with a slightly smaller rear sway bar you could get a more equal feel. the VTEC sols i have driven do feel pretty balanced.



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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It does, with EM1 LCAs, which will bolt up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought EM1 LCAs (and all EK LCAs in general) screwed up the already minimal caster of the EG/DC suspension. I'm not 100% on this, but I've been told that running EG LCAs on a EK results in additional caster. Even though they look the same, non-Si EK civics use a different front LCA from EG/DC...


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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I thought EM1 LCAs (and all EK LCAs in general) screwed up the already minimal caster of the EG/DC suspension. I'm not 100% on this, but I've been told that running EG LCAs on a EK results in additional caster. Even though they look the same, non-Si EK civics use a different front LCA from EG/DC...


Modified by 94eg! at 8:47 AM 3/30/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

According to this thread, DC LCAs fit onto EKs without any problems

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/for...47935
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

According to this thread, DC LCAs fit onto EKs without any problems

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/for...47935
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Of course they fit. But just because it works, that doesn't mean they don't change things. I don't know from personal experience (actually measuring), but I have been told that it is common practice to use EG/DC/Sol LCAs on an EK to increase caster for better high speed stability. This would mean that using EK LCAs on an EG/DC/Sol chassis would decrease caster. And since EG/DC/Sol chassis only have 1* of caster stock, that wouldn't be good...

I guess all I'm saying is that the OP should probably look into it a little more before trying that combo...
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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At least on my em1, the lca seems to be longer and a different shape than on my 94 ex. If that helps at all.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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<U>i run the VTEC front sway bar and the progress rear sway bar (24mm F, 24mm R)and if i take a corner hard enough i can get the back end to come around. so i imagine with a slightly smaller rear sway bar you could get a more equal feel. the VTEC sols i have driven do feel pretty balanced.</U>


I went with suspension techniques balanced kit, 22m F/ 22mm R

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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cant wait to see =^-^=b
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