ok i have a jdm itr im going for a oil pump change was looking around and dont know if the jdm itrs uses the same oil pump as the usdm itr

i was searching and the USDM itr uses oem oil pump part number 15100-p72-a01 while the jdm uses the 15100-pr4-a03 (correct me if i am wrong) which one should i get?


there are some people in this board saying that all the b-series uses the same oil pump now i read that the priors itr and the 98+ have a different bolt pattern and something about a sensor.. anyone that can confirm this?

if someone know a good site where i can buy for cheap please link me

 

Should be the same as our GSRs, ITRs, and B16s. The cast isn't different from our GSR/ITR blocks.

 

so this means if i get the usdm oil pump assy it will work identically as the jdm one? bolt pattern and everything? any differences between earlier itr and second gens itr oil pump?

 

USDM oil pumps will have a CKF sensor which you only need if you are using a USDM OBD2 ECU.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MXS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">USDM oil pumps will have a CKF sensor which you only need if you are using a USDM OBD2 ECU.
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If your car doesn't already have the CKF sensor, then just get the OBD-1 oil-pump (no sensor attachment points) from the 94-95 Del Sol VTEC or a 94-95 GSR (both are #15100-PR3-024)...

PS: Pumps mounting holes look the same
OBD-1 Pump (no sensor):


OBD-2 Pump (w/ sensor):

 

thanks for the replies my car is a total jdm car is an jdm itr 97 spec .. do u guys will you guys think its a obd2? since is an itr, but do u think jdm itr had changes in computer?since they had 97 and 98 specs or all jdm itrs are obd2?

 

you will be obd2 but you wont have a crank sensor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM97dc2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the replies my car is a total jdm car is an jdm itr 97 spec .. do u guys will you guys think its a obd2? since is an itr, but do u think jdm itr had changes in computer?since they had 97 and 98 specs or all jdm itrs are obd2?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have that motor in my Civic. There is no Crank sensor. Get the OBD-1 pump...

 

ok i didnt write im a 97jdm itr spec (didnt write that before) so is it fine for me to either the oil pump with the sensonr and the one without it will still work in my car?

 

yes

 

just buy the obd-1 as 97 spec itr's do not use the sensor.

 

thanks everyone

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM97dc2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i didnt write im a 97jdm itr spec (didnt write that before) so is it fine for me to either the oil pump with the sensonr and the one without it will still work in my car? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think you can use the one that has the spot for the sensor. As you can see from the pics, the sensor doesn't come with the oil pump. This will most likely leave hole in oil pump that sprays oil everywhere if the sensor is not in place...

 

LOL
no it won't. When i rebuilt a 99 ITR block for use in my EG, i just left the sensor off

 

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I don't think you can use the one that has the spot for the sensor. As you can see from the pics, the sensor doesn't come with the oil pump. This will most likely leave hole in oil pump that sprays oil everywhere if the sensor is not in place... </TD></TR></TABLE>

what i see from the pic above it looks like the sensor thing are some cables that only bolts to the outside.. someone correct me if i am wrong or will it leave a hole and spray oil everywhere?
im confused now

 

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what i see from the pic above it looks like the sensor thing are some cables that only bolts to the outside.. someone correct me if i am wrong or will it leave a hole and spray oil everywhere?
im confused now </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zc911 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL
no it won't. When i rebuilt a 99 ITR block for use in my EG, i just left the sensor off</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's really not that hard .....

 

thanks raging angel...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zc911 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL
no it won't. When i rebuilt a 99 ITR block for use in my EG, i just left the sensor off</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I also just bought a 97 type-r (usdm) oil pump and it came with that spot for the crank sensor. I also bought a 97 type-r (usdm) distributor that has the crank sensor inside. Why would there be a crank sensor inside the distributor and also on the crank???????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted crx-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also just bought a 97 type-r (usdm) oil pump and it came with that spot for the crank sensor. I also bought a 97 type-r (usdm) distributor that has the crank sensor inside. Why would there be a crank sensor inside the distributor and also on the crank???????</TD></TR></TABLE>

The distributor sensor simply measures where the crank "should" be in relation to the cam. The sensor on the oil pump measures crank flux which is slightly different. It's job to to make sure the crank shaft isn't flexing too much. This flex is the reason it's necissary to run a harmonic balancer...

 

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The distributor sensor simply measures where the crank "should" be in relation to the cam. The sensor on the oil pump measures crank flux which is slightly different. It's job to to make sure the crank shaft isn't flexing too much. This flex is the reason it's necissary to run a harmonic balancer...</TD></TR></TABLE>

now my question why does the jdm ones doesnt have the sensor now... (oil pump) while the usdm has it.. because american auto. laws needs it? or cause honda of america doesnt want to get sued that easily

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1935904

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1935904</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good info on the lower timing covers needing to match the pump. That would be really disappointing getting everything in there only to find the cover didn't fit...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think you can use the one that has the spot for the sensor. As you can see from the pics, the sensor doesn't come with the oil pump. This will most likely leave hole in oil pump that sprays oil everywhere if the sensor is not in place... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't listen to this guy he has no idea what he's talking about

I did a write up on legalizing the jdm itr b18c motor, and I had to swap oil pumps cause the usdm ecu looks for the crank angle signal from the sensor on the oil pump. Running the pump without the sensor wont effect the pump in anyway what so ever. Heres a link to the write up I did with a picture of the usdm oil pump it clearly shows the sensor on the usdm oil pump, it mounts to the side of the pump and uses some sort of magnetic sensor, which will not effect the pump itself if you remove the sensor.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=906684

 

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Don't listen to this guy he has no idea what he's talking about

I did a write up on legalizing the jdm itr b18c motor, and I had to swap oil pumps cause the usdm ecu looks for the crank angle signal from the sensor on the oil pump. Running the pump without the sensor wont effect the pump in anyway what so ever. Heres a link to the write up I did with a picture of the usdm oil pump it clearly shows the sensor on the usdm oil pump, it mounts to the side of the pump and uses some sort of magnetic sensor, which will not effect the pump itself if you remove the sensor.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=906684 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you retarded? The OP plainly stated that he has the entire JDM Integra Type R (not just the motor), so what would be the point?

Reading &gt; You