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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Hi,

I am new to this forum. I am still getting used to it so pls forgive me if I make any mistakes.

I drive a 91 Honda ballade 150, carb, 16v sohc.

All I have done so far is put on some 15s and a 40mm drop spring set.
The pic is without the springs.

I am hoping to find out if I am able to put a dohc engine in on my current gear box.
I have the work shop manual and it seems that both engines have the same gearbox?

Can anyone pls advice?

thanks
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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the DOHC ZC, D16A8, D16A9, D16Z5 engines all use the same transmission as your SOHC engine - since your car is carbed, you will have some fuel system issues to deal with when swapping to a fuel injected DOHC engine, as well as some wiring issues - it would be simpler to run carbs on the DOHC engine
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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thanks for the reply and info

I am planing to install a Gotech ecu and installing senors much later on....
I am hoping my carb intake manifold will fit on the ZC head but i am unsure of that...

If it wont fit I think I will get one made and put on webers as this will be cheeper and quicker then installing FI.

I do have a much older ZC top end almost compleate but the flanges dont match with any other Honda head I have seen.

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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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dont forget d16a1
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Iccy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the reply and info

I am planing to install a Gotech ecu and installing senors much later on....
I am hoping my carb intake manifold will fit on the ZC head but i am unsure of that...

If it wont fit I think I will get one made and put on webers as this will be cheeper and quicker then installing FI.

I do have a much older ZC top end almost compleate but the flanges dont match with any other Honda head I have seen.

</TD></TR></TABLE>the DOHC ZC intake manifold is completely different from the SOHC manifolds - we use a TWM intake manifold with the Weber DCOE carbs
[IMG][/IMG]
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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with the carbs, you don't need the ECU or any sensors - we just run MSD 8979 for controlling the ignition timing
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Thats sexy.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the DOHC ZC intake manifold is completely different from the SOHC manifolds - we use a TWM intake manifold with the Weber DCOE carbs
[IMG][/IMG]</TD></TR></TABLE> yah IM manifolds on DOHC are always different...d16a1 IM to d16a6 = hahaha
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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ok cool thanks

now I just have to look at getting this engine....
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the DOHC ZC intake manifold is completely different from the SOHC manifolds - we use a TWM intake manifold with the Weber DCOE carbs
[IMG][/IMG]</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think I'm going to save this to show to anybody on here that says the DOHC ZC is not a buildable or worthwhile engine. Great setup jlicrx.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the DOHC ZC intake manifold is completely different from the SOHC manifolds - we use a TWM intake manifold with the Weber DCOE carbs
[IMG][/IMG]</TD></TR></TABLE>


Looks like I am taking this route. I am swoping my turbo for 2 x 40mm side draft webers.

Do I need a high pressure fuel pump for them?
As for the intake manifold I would have to get one made here...
What kind of power can I expect?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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no reply...

anyway got me a set of webers today.. swoped them for my turbo.




in need of a clean..

I will be getthing the dohc engine soon.
and then the intake manifold...
I will be getting a 3-5 psi fuel pump.


any more advice?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Iccy, if you want jlicrx's advice (he's great with ZCs), I suggest signing up at http://www.thezcr.com, he's over there more than H-T it seems. Also, his website: http://www.zcspeed.com.


Modified by wiZCo at 3:33 PM 4/12/2007
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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thanks!!

sites are cool
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