This past week i've seen like 50 zillion posts of members selling toda b's. What is the deal??

 

Because JUN ownz Joo

 

because they had their timing belt jump, made less power than the dynos with Toda B's here, kept a stock compression ratio, and don't have enough tuning experience to extract the potential of the cam....in other words, they bought into the hype and got in over their heads....but don't want to admit it publicly...


[Modified by Michael Delaney, 10:39 PM 5/23/2002]

 

I too used to think Jun owned Toda, (like yesterday hahaha), but for a good street setup, Toda Ownz j00!

 

What ABSOLUTELY AMAZING insight you have there... (really, I am serious)

incredible......

 

Toda B ownz, but I'm selling the car

 

ok all good responses

 

LOL...obvious isn't it??

 

Well I lost one motor to a belt on my toda b's, but I'm giving them a second chance,with a little help from power ent . I just hope it doesnt happen again because this motor cost way more than my r motor.

 

b/c my toda b's won't fit in my NSX butthead ,

im selling the car too!!!!!
going for a nice used car, or a beater and saving hella cash, or jus saving hella cash for a m3 grad. present

 

So true...

 

I think its cause people don't realize that these are not the type of cams that you can just drop in and hope for power. When i had my toda B's first put in, i hated it because my car ran like crap. I tuned it two weeks later and no regrets

Mid-Range kicks ***

 

Toda B + intake + cheap JDM header + gears + V-AFC = madd phat midrange, not so much on the peak power side. Throw in an exhaust and a tuner who knows his nads from an 02 sensor and you're looking at a solid 185 whp.

Add a valvetrain, some compression, more fuel, standalone maybe, and a tuner who knows his chit = 200 whp or better.

Toda B's are not plug-and-play. Anyone who tells you otherwise should be kicked in the jimmy.


Pat, who's budget B setup made 180-ish peak with a 20+ delta at midrange

 

b/c OEM parts own(CTR cams) and ill admit i bought into the hype

 

I second, third, fourth, whatever that. You hit the nail on the head.

 

Ok..I am going to add my 1 penny to this.

I talk to alot of you on the phone, and we talk about all kind of things to make your motor better.

And one thing that comes up is..

timing belts breaking and blowing up motors with Toda B's only.

However...I do not personally believe Toda B's have anything to do with timing belts breaking.

I personally, would say Buy toda B's if your the type of guy who wants to be pretty absolutely sure, the cams are not going to break.

Pretty damn high quality cams.

Jeff

 

Then what you think the reason is for the timing belt failure to people with Toda Spec B or C? So far I see close to 10 ppl with Toda B or C have problem with the timing belt, but none with JUN cams.

I am not trying to doubt you, just want to know what you think the reason is, so we can share and not make the same mistake in the future.

 

I have seen several Toda B dynos, and it seems for the mods these people are doing they would have been much better off just getting a set of Toda A's. When I had my R that was the route I took and was quite happy with the results.

 

Why did the chicken cross the road? Sounds familiar?

We may never know the answer to the question because there are so many possibilities.

ilr, who isn't trying to sound like a *****.

 

This past week i've seen like 50 zillion posts of members selling toda b's. What is the deal

"Because they wont idle"

 

Very thrue. Plus you have to accept the fact that more preventive maintenance is required with those type of camshafts. You have to check the belt more often, adjust valve lash more often... basically they are not "drop them in and forget about them for 50000 miles".


[quote] Because they don't idle[quote]

Mine idle just find and they are not even tuned yet.


[Modified by JPP, 9:02 AM 5/24/2002]

 

Umm because I went and bought the C specs...

 

I know its best to upgrade the valve springs for the spec B's but has anyone had problems running stock type R springs with these cams? Thanks for the input

 

stock train for over 6 months of road course abuse.


FYI: 8600rpms max.

 

Thanks