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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Default 93 motor in 00 lude. OBD2 Dizzy not working. SEARCH DONE!

Heres the deal.

I have a 1993 H22a in my 00' lude.

I tried to start it today, but no go.

I did a search for this already -- and I asked one guy, he did the same thing, and he used a 1996 H23 distributor.

So, my question is; "is there any OBD1 Distributor that is a direct plug and play into my stock 5th gen wiring harness? If not, what to I buy, and how the expletive do I make it work????????????"

If anyone has a wiring graph or anyhting, that would be bitchin'. Im hoping I can get the car started tomarrow.

Thanks in advance guys.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MeNmyType-SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres the deal.

I have a 1993 H22a in my 00' lude.

I tried to start it today, but no go.

I did a search for this already -- and I asked one guy, he did the same thing, and he used a 1996 H23 distributor.

So, my question is; "is there any OBD1 Distributor that is a direct plug and play into my stock 5th gen wiring harness? If not, what to I buy, and how the expletive do I make it work????????????"

If anyone has a wiring graph or anyhting, that would be bitchin'. Im hoping I can get the car started tomarrow.

Thanks in advance guys. </TD></TR></TABLE>

converting your obd1 engine to obd2 isnt too hard from what i have heard. You must use an obd2 oil pump because there are sensors on it like the crank position sensor that are in the ddistributor in the OBD1 engines. So right now, your car thinks it doesnt have a crank position sensor because you are using the OBD2 dizzy on an OBD1 engine. Not gonna work unless you use the h22a4 oil pump. Are you using OBD1 or OBD2 injectors? b/c the OBD1 injectors wont work with the OBD2 harness from what I have gathered
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Default Re: 93 motor in 00 lude. OBD2 Dizzy not working. SEARCH DONE! (egcoupe94)

They are RC 440cc injectors. w/ OBD1 style clips.

I just want to be able to put a dizzy on there thats OBD1 with the TDC/CP sensor.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MeNmyType-SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are RC 440cc injectors. w/ OBD1 style clips.

I just want to be able to put a dizzy on there thats OBD1 with the TDC/CP sensor.
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well...then you will have to use an OBD1 harness.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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not being a dick, but what did this solve?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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what ecu are we using?

I think if you knew the wiring it could be converted. If they make adapter harnesses to go from obd2 motors to obd1 ecus then it should be compatible the opposite way, you'd just have to figure out how to wire it correctly.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what ecu are we using?

I think if you knew the wiring it could be converted. If they make adapter harnesses to go from obd2 motors to obd1 ecus then it should be compatible the opposite way, you'd just have to figure out how to wire it correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

P72 w/ Hondata S200. Boomslang OBD2 --&gt; OBD1 Conversion Harness.

I was informed that I could buy a 4th gen (92-95 OBD1) engine harness and then I could use a 92-95 H-Series Dizzy, and it would run...but they werent sure if I'd have to replace the shock tower harness. Will a 4th gen Engine harness snap right into the enginebay of a 5th gen? Or do I have to replace the main wiring harness in the entire car? If anyone knows where I can get one for fairly cheap, let me know!

Im also worried about how close my RMF comes to the Alternator...I think that rubber thing is gonna melt...what do you think?


I hate how I can only do 5 posts in 24 hours or whatever...
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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I don't know if those harneses would be compatible or not, but surely someone round here does.

but damn that plug does look close haha, better sell me that header
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Default Re: 93 motor in 00 lude. OBD2 Dizzy not working. SEARCH DONE! (Rosko)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what ecu are we using?

I think if you knew the wiring it could be converted. If they make adapter harnesses to go from obd2 motors to obd1 ecus then it should be compatible the opposite way, you'd just have to figure out how to wire it correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

from what I gathered last night, from talking to him on AIM&lt; he is using an OBD1 p72
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MeNmyType-SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

P72 w/ Hondata S200. Boomslang OBD2 --&gt; OBD1 Conversion Harness.

I was informed that I could buy a 4th gen (92-95 OBD1) engine harness and then I could use a 92-95 H-Series Dizzy, and it would run...but they werent sure if I'd have to replace the shock tower harness. Will a 4th gen Engine harness snap right into the enginebay of a 5th gen? Or do I have to replace the main wiring harness in the entire car? If anyone knows where I can get one for fairly cheap, let me know!

Im also worried about how close my RMF comes to the Alternator...I think that rubber thing is gonna melt...what do you think?


I hate how I can only do 5 posts in 24 hours or whatever...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, thats what I was saying to you last night, Im just not sure if you can plug an OBD1 engine harness into an OBD2 shock tower harness...

maybe someone else can help you man
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Can't help but just wanted to say DAMN! Nice headers.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K-Style &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't help but just wanted to say DAMN! Nice headers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

u see 2? I only see 1 header
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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i dont know for a fact, but i thought all you had to do was get an OBD1 distributor?
but i could be wrong.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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You are going to have to run four wires from a plug that is below you IM on the drivers side up to the obd1 dizzy. You will have to cut up your harness to get the right wires to the right plugs. This option will be easier and cheaper than either getting a new engine harness or putting in the sensor at the oil pump. More information about what wire connects to what in a stickied thread in the hybred forum. I think it is for putting an h22 in a civic but same principle applies.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are going to have to run four wires from a plug that is below you IM on the drivers side up to the obd1 dizzy. You will have to cut up your harness to get the right wires to the right plugs. This option will be easier and cheaper than either getting a new engine harness or putting in the sensor at the oil pump. More information about what wire connects to what in a stickied thread in the hybred forum. I think it is for putting an h22 in a civic but same principle applies.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or he could just buy an OBD2 oil pump...thats easier than cutting and splicing
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are going to have to run four wires from a plug that is below you IM on the drivers side up to the obd1 dizzy. You will have to cut up your harness to get the right wires to the right plugs. This option will be easier and cheaper than either getting a new engine harness or putting in the sensor at the oil pump. More information about what wire connects to what in a stickied thread in the hybred forum. I think it is for putting an h22 in a civic but same principle applies.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is a Diagram for converting the OBD's Dizzys.....and, there are only 9 wires listed, but there are a total of 10 all together.

I compared it to my dizzy (OBD2), and my TDC/CKP sensor, and I have all the right color wires, with the exception that I have 2 solid green wires (one on the TDC sensor and the other on the dizzy). Which is a problem, cause there is only one green wire listed on the diagram. I looked in my service manual at the "ignition wiring diagram" and it shows the solid green one coming off the distributor comes from the coil into the ICM.

So, Im buying a 94 OBD1 dizzy, and Im going to attempt to splice it...im just worried about the 1 extra wire on both dizzys thats not listed on the conversion diagram.

Hope someone can help me on this. haha. I wanna get this monster running!!!
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or he could just buy an OBD2 oil pump...thats easier than cutting and splicing</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it would be a complete ******* bitch to replace that oil pump.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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I think it would be a complete ******* bitch to replace that oil pump. </TD></TR></TABLE>

much easier to do when the engine is out
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

much easier to do when the engine is out</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya, I just put it in, and I really have no intrest in pulling it again. haha
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