I need to put a 4pt. harness in my 89 hatch and I know it's not the greatest idea to do it without a roll bar, but i dont have the money to put one in.

I want some ideas of what people have done to mount 4pt. harnesses in their hatches.

My car is only for auto-xing if that makes any difference to anyone.

 

since u have a hatch & i dont know if u have back seats there is this quick release c pillar bar
http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=295

 

c-pillar bars are not safe for mounting a harness to, you will need to get some sort of harness bar for the B pillar or get the rollbar with the harness bar attached, and btw 4 points arent as safe as your regular seat belts are. So get a 5 point or stay stock

 

what about mounting it to where the rear seatbelt bolts to the floor under the back seat?

 

Trash can.

You
A: Arn't mounting them safely you said so your self.
B: Arn't using 5 points
C: Arn't going to pass most any safety with a rig job.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DmcL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about mounting it to where the rear seatbelt bolts to the floor under the back seat?</TD></TR></TABLE> No don't do that, if you crash you will compress your spine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF001282 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 4 points arent as safe as your regular seat belts are. So get a 5 point or stay stock </TD></TR></TABLE>Define aren't as safe in relative terms to a 3-point, there is some serious talk rippling through the OEMs for moving from 3s to 4s.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF001282 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> No don't do that, if you crash you will compress your spine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

true true... alot og guys do that cuz its "convenient" but its totally not safe.... u should mount them parrallel, not angled down if u know what i'm talking about

 

dont bother mounting them untill you get a roll bar. your stock belts get you through tech and you have no real need for a harness in auto-x other than keeping you in the seat(unless you like to hit light poles )


once you get a roll bar,
mount them no more than 12" behind you, no more than 15* down from the tops of your shoulders and the end of the shoulder straps should angle in where they mount.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Define aren't as safe in relative terms to a 3-point, there is some serious talk rippling through the OEMs for moving from 3s to 4s.</TD></TR></TABLE>With the 4 point belts you can slide under the belts in a hard front end hit, that is why you should get the 5 point with the sub belt. The sub belt keeps you from going under and causing serious damage. Also the three point is better than a 4 point because the lap belt stays in place and the chest belt gives a little and then locks to make your body fold at the waist and basically creates a V shape, that V shape keeps you in place and keeps you from sliding under the lap belt.

 

would he need the roll bar for the 5 point?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueRex1020 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would he need the roll bar for the 5 point?</TD></TR></TABLE>yes either a rollbar or a B pillar harness bar