i was wondering if any one is running a GT3582R Twin Scroll Turbo i saw it on full-races web sit and was wonder if anyone had any experince with it. numbers? graphs? is it better than the normal gt35r?

thanks

 

anyone?

 

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22 psi

 

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160whp to over 500whp in 1k rpm..

Solid.

 

good numbers anyone eles?

 

I'm curious about the twin scroll too..

 

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Lower vtec maybe?

 

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160whp to over 500whp in 1k rpm..

Solid.

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check the graph again the numbers on each side arent equal, and this example spools fairly late compared to every other non divided gt35r ive seen.

any other graphs to compare these divided housings?

 

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check the graph again the numbers on each side arent equal, and this example spools fairly late compared to every other non divided gt35r ive seen.

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Unless I am misunderstanding you, the numbers on either side our whp & wtq. So they won't be the same??

Green = whp
Blue = wtq

 

I didn't understand that graph either..I just looked at it for 2 seconds, saw that the torque and hp didn't cross at 5252, said wtf, and closed the window..

 

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Unless I am misunderstanding you, the numbers on either side our whp & wtq. So they won't be the same??

Green = whp
Blue = wtq

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yes green = whp but you must look at the right side to get the numbers for that
and blue = wtq and you must look to the left to get the numbers for that graph.

so make sure you looked to the proper side to get the right value.

it takes about 2k to get from 160whp to 500whp.

 

look at the graph again. the hp and tq #s are on different scales. go to 5252rpm and check both the hp and tq # ... you will see that they are the same. the late spool is due to the ramping time on the dyno. on the street, it spools hard

and by the way, i read the original question wrong. this graph is a gt3582rlps (has the ported shrowd). this is not in a divided t3 housing. and im not positive as to what the "twin scroll" means. not sure if i have that or not. sorry if thats the wrong graph for what you guys are looking for

 

I haven't used this particular tubro but I recently switched from a single scroll GT3076R to a twin scroll GT3076R. The spool ended up being just about the same but I gained 40whp and 29 ft/lbs at the same boost. It held that increase from full boost to redline. I hit full boost of 16psi at 4200 rpm's. I ended up making 409 hp and 329 ft/lbs. This is not on a honda but is using the Full-Race twin scroll manifold.

If you have a twin scroll manifold and turbo the turbine housing and the manifold will be divided so that the cylinders will be split in two sections. Depending on the firing order of the cylinders it will be paired to increase exhaust velocity and make it smoother since the cylinders are not fightling againist each other. This also decreases cylinder pressure.

Here is a picture of my manifold so you can see how its divided. Cyliners 1 and 4 are paired together and 2 and 3 are together. You would have to have ordered special housings and manifold to have twin scroll. Cars like EVO's use this technology stock.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1895657

some twin scroll info from a thread I posted, because I had no clue what it was

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TS4L &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't used this particular tubro but I recently switched from a single scroll GT3076R to a twin scroll GT3076R. The spool ended up being just about the same but I gained 40whp and 29 ft/lbs at the same boost. It held that increase from full boost to redline. I hit full boost of 16psi at 4200 rpm's. I ended up making 409 hp and 329 ft/lbs. This is not on a honda but is using the Full-Race twin scroll manifold.

If you have a twin scroll manifold and turbo the turbine housing and the manifold will be divided so that the cylinders will be split in two sections. Depending on the firing order of the cylinders it will be paired to increase exhaust velocity and make it smoother since the cylinders are not fightling againist each other. This also decreases cylinder pressure.

Here is a picture of my manifold so you can see how its divided. Cyliners 1 and 4 are paired together and 2 and 3 are together. You would have to have ordered special housings and manifold to have twin scroll. Cars like EVO's use this technology stock.

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is that mani divided all the way out to the wg piston?

and also holsets run divided housings on 90% of there stuff

 

Its divided so one and four go to one side and two and three go to the other. Then right at the flange the wastegate dump is split between the two. You can get it so it uses two 44mm wastgates but since I am only running a GT30R I didn't need the second wastegate. These setup are known for boost creep on turbo's bigger than GT30R's. Using two wastegates keeps less back pressure and avoids the boost creep from larger turbo's.