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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Ok so the Integra forums move ridiculously slow. And since this is partially about appearance (how visibly short the shifter is) I figured I'd give it a shot in here. This is for a DA.

Anybody have experience with either of these short shifters? I'm leaning more towards the TWM Stage 1 version

Stage 1:
- 1.5" height reduction
- 40% throw reduction
Stage 2:
- 3" height reduction
- 55% throw reduction


I'm thinking that 3" and 55% will be a little too extreme for me. But does anyone know how visibly short the Neuspeed is? Here's a link to both.

Neuspeed: http://www.inlinefour.com/neusshorshif.html

TWM Performance: http://www.twmperformance.com/...s.htm


They're both around the same price, what do you guys think?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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TWM with Energy Suspension bushings
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Any links on where to get the bushings?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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3" reduction in height!! i want to see that. anyone have pics?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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I know someone did a review of the Stage 2 about 2 years ago, all the img links in his post are broken tho. He said only the **** was coming out of the boot it was so short.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Yea, i was just reading that thread. The guy also said that the shifter is waaay to short and grinds between shifts all the time....Im kind of against short shifters in general, and the only shifter i would ever get is the FLP shifter. however shifters that are low look really cool.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECommie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea, i was just reading that thread. The guy also said that the shifter is waaay to short and grinds between shifts all the time....Im kind of against short shifters in general, </TD></TR></TABLE>

me too. screw a short shifter and spend your money else where or just get new bushings for your OE shifter.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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New bushings wouldn't shorten the throw would they? I like the feel of really short throws for some reason...
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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I haven't used a short throw shifter that hasn't damaged a tranny yet. It just ***** up the geometry IMO and causes grinding.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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save your money , shift faster
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Danger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">save your money , shift faster </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol, i just like the feeling of the gears being close to eachother. Plus I think an aftermarket shift **** would look whack on a stock height shifter. Maybe I'm wrong?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B.Cruz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

me too. screw a short shifter and spend your money else where or just get new bushings for your OE shifter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good advice. honda gears are already short compared to other cars, with a set of nice bushing you'll get the best feel that no bs short shifter will get you.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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No idea what I would choose.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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I have a B&M for a DA and its great but i do feel the shifter causing problems i have a 3rd gear grind that i didnt have before. i thuogh it was just old. circa 1989
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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hmm... does anyone have any pics of an aftermarket **** on a stock height shifter?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Just trim the top of your shifter and leave enough thread so you can screw the **** on. I understand you may be doing this for asthetics but if you want to do this for 'feel', then get a circuithero shifter extension in conjunction with a short shifter and it will feel alot better especially with the shifter being much closer to the steering wheel.

Also, you need to factor in that the bottom of the short shifter will hit your exhaust piping.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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I have the TWM shifter on my Mazda 3, the height is noticably shorter, however the throw is only a little bit shorter. It was worth it though in my opinion, the stock throw was like an 18 wheeler.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Some one put a REALLY short shifter in my civic before I got it, I installed a factory polished type R shifter and never looked back. Waay better than the super short shifter!
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JasperDA9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a B&M for a DA and its great but i do feel the shifter causing problems i have a 3rd gear grind that i didnt have before. i thuogh it was just old. circa 1989</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats wierd, hrm..

I installed a B&M on my car, and my HORRIBLE 2nd gear grind doesn't rear its ugly head anymore.

The best short-shifter I have used, by far, is the skunk2. There isn't a big difference in height reduction, but the throw is reduced about 25-30% Not only that, but it feels a lot better due to the ball bearings. I had it on my old DA
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sixfiveoh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any links on where to get the bushings?</TD></TR></TABLE>

shopresponse.com
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