Alright so I have been searching around to buy a block guard for my setup and I have also read u on it and all I have been able to find is opinion and i know thats all i am going to get from this post but what have you guys experiences with these things I have been told about the sleeves expanding from heat and cracking becuase there is no where to go and also i hear they create hot spots and then sleeves tend to crack also. THen on the other side I have heard great stories about them. Now my setup is a b18a1 bottom end A0 type-r pistons (mld bottem end build all with ARP fasteners) head is build from DH-Racing so what do you guys think i should do the bottem end is assembled would it be a bad thing to install one at this point now that the bottom end is built or no? Let me know thanks guys

 

You have to bore and hone after you install the block guard. It will distort the bores.

 

not worth the effort on a NA motor.

You would do better getting a block girdle.

 

sorry to ask but wats a block girdle

 

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who make s a good block girdle and how much?

 

kms development...look on ebay for them or you can use a stock GSR block girdle..but your going to need GSR main studs and the main caps if you use the GSR girdle..

if you get the KMS developement girdle..I believe all you need is the GSR main studs and not the main caps also....

 

if you have the cash, a block guard wouldnt hurt if installed right.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16nonoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kms development...look on ebay for them or you can use a stock GSR block girdle..but your going to need GSR main studs and the main caps if you use the GSR girdle..

if you get the KMS developement girdle..I believe all you need is the GSR main studs and not the main caps also....</TD></TR></TABLE>

you will also need an itr/gsr oil pick up, windage try, and oil pan.

 

get the b18 series erl performance 5 point girdle...its a sturdy piece 400$ ballparked...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16nonoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kms development...look on ebay for them or you can use a stock GSR block girdle..but your going to need GSR main studs and the main caps if you use the GSR girdle..

if you get the KMS developement girdle..I believe all you need is the GSR main studs and not the main caps also....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget to have the main bores align honed after installing the girdle too. They also get distorted with arp mainstuds.

 

Does that z10 girdle use LS Main caps? Notice the OEM main bolts...

 

distort from the higher torques applied to the bolts?? does anyone use oem main bolts for a built street motor??...

 

i have a block guard in my b20vtec and i havnt had a problem with it yet 13:1 comp stock bore if any thing just make sure its installed right.. it a kms by the way

 

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Just noticed that picture is from Endyn's "how to build a 2Liter Honda" tutorial. He used new OEM main bolts for the build and apparently Mr. Widmer has a habit of turning motors very high. If that tells you anything.

Sometimes you can find OEM gsr girdles on ebay for around $50-60 shipped.