B16 swap--ITR clutch or ACT clutch??

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Old May 21, 2002 | 05:32 AM
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Default B16 swap--ITR clutch or ACT clutch??

Ok. First, does the ITR clutch work on the B16 (1st gen)? I've yeard yes, but I'm not sure.
Second, would it be just as good to get the ITR clutch or is the ACT way better. I'm a bit low on funds, but I want to make sure I get a new clutch when my swap is done. Some help please. Also does anyone know what else I should replace when I get this done?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 05:49 AM
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go to clutchcityonline.com -- they have Exedy street clutches for $270 shipped, includes disc, pressure plate, throwout and pilot bearings, and alignment tool. these clutches can easily handle 250 hp at the wheels.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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dude, i also say go with an exedy. love it. also think about doing timing belt, water pump, belts, hoses and gaskets.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 05:59 AM
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Sounds good, but can anyone answer my initial question? Does the Integra Type-R clutch fit on the 1st gen B16?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:39 AM
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as far as I know you can only use the pressure plate from the ITR and NOT the clutch disk as the ITR has a larger input shaft.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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Would I benefit from using the ITR pressure plate with a new b16 clutch? Would that be like using an aftermarket pressure plate?
Please help me with this.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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i doubt that using the ITR pressure plate with a B16 disc is going to be what you are looking for. even a stage 1 (?) entry level ACT is a better way to go, i am told. but i am told a lot of things. that's why i am buying Exedy.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:55 AM
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Hmm..I see.
Is there anyone that knows for sure?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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Exedy is your best bang for the buck.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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ClutchMasters, Stock pedal feel, and stage 3 will not slip with your B16.

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Old May 21, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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Well I guess there isn't a way around getting an aftermarket clutch. Specially since I wanted the performance but didn't want to pay the price tag. Well I guess I'll squeeze out the money for a aftermarket clutch, and just leave my walet stock.
Thanks for the info guys.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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as far as I know you can only use the pressure plate from the ITR and NOT the clutch disk as the ITR has a larger input shaft.
100% right "red civic standard". I have the following setup on my car, ITR pressure plate and EE8 disc. ITR has larger input shaft, it seems it would work but too much freeplay IMHO. My setup works great on B18C6+Y21 (cable), it is a bit stiffer clutch then stock EE8 but feels great. Funny thing is EE8 stock disc has greater surface then ITR one. I still never tried ACT or any performance clutch so don't know if they are better.


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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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So you have a ITR PP and a B16 stock disk, right? Does the clutch slip at all? How much power are you putting down?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:41 AM
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So you have a ITR PP and a B16 stock disk, right? Does the clutch slip at all? How much power are you putting down?
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Exactly, no clutch slip at all, my engine is completely stock, that is 195PS from EURO spec B18C6.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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screw exedy.. it sucks buy a clutch from me.. brand spankin new clutchmasters stage 3.. 310 shipped... hit me up.. vangboy509@hotmail.com
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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Hey Radex, so do you chirp your tires in second and third?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:52 AM
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with my clutch you'll chirp 4th easy
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Hey B16_ef, I would love to get your clutch, but I'm really pressed for funds because of the engine swap. Besides, I'm going to be stock for a while and I'm trying to find something that is good when you don't have a lot of power to the wheels yet.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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stage 3 is good for daily driving etc..etc.. if you want ill hook you up with a deal.. lightened flywheel and stage 3 for 600 shipped
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Old May 21, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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okay my friend is running his B18a with a ITR flywheel and PP, Grabing it all with a ACT stage 3 disk. IT works perfect and grabs very hard.

On my B16A all I have is a ACT street Stage 3 disk and it grabs good enough for me.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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Exedy sucks?! ok, you just lost all your credibility for recommending that clutchmasters garbage over Exedy. remember: exedy is organic, far better than clutchmasters. that guy does have a deal for you: flywheel and clutch, unfortunately, the clutchmasters flywheel is a joke compared to the Toda 8.5 pound.

his $600 is a good deal, however, i laugh at that because anyone can get the exedy clutch for $270, and i can get the toda flywheel for $400, that's $70 more to get a real setup that would rev faster than the clutchmasters stuff in the first place.


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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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hehe.. i know.. just that i get this for cheap... so it's just that i sell to make profit.. exedy does suck.. from experience.. doesn't grab hard.. clutchmasters is organic also.. stage 1.. stage 3 is carbon kevler.. even better.. i can sell the flywheel for cheaper but wheres my profit? hehe.. so you kow.. 600shipped
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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Default Re: B16 swap--ITR clutch or ACT clutch?? (REDBARON)

I have some actual hands on experience on this subject.
First as already stated here, you can use the Type R pressure plate on the cable tranny, but you cannot use the Type R clutch disk on the Cable tranny.As a side
my friend did exactly as you asked.
He is now getting a full clutch kit after 9,000 miles because his OEM ITR clutch is slipping.
I have a ACT clutch on my CRX and have had no problem with it.
182 HP at the wheels nad no slippage.
You HAVE to break it in though, for the first 500 miles of CITY driving you cannot race.
Good luck
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Old May 22, 2002 | 05:58 AM
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'll go with ACT since I had one in my other car and it worked great.
Thanks again.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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i can get you an ACT x-treme pp and street organic for 400 shipped
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