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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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Anyone ran Greddy Bolt-on Turbo Kit with Intercooler and 3" piping with no Internal Upgrades??!?!?

bascially i want a good boost but don't want to go crazy with internal upgrades, I want to run 7psi but not sure if my engine can handle it, a b16a2. thanx alot. lemme kno wut u guys have done to take extra precaution when runnin these extra boost. thanx!
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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holy **** batman...3"......go 2" or 2.25"
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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The engine will handle it fine, but I strongly urge you to invest in proper tuning, to extract the most power and reliability from the setup.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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The internals can handle about 250whp before they become unreliable, so have fun.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The engine will handle it fine, but I strongly urge you to invest in proper tuning, to extract the most power and reliability from the setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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250WHP, wow, that is like.... 9.... 10 PSI?? well i was considering chaning my waterpump,timing belt at the same time as the installation and adding a under pulley kit. but then also though about putting a metal head gasket to higher the compression to maybe add anopther 2lbs of boost . so i can maybe run 9-10PSI. what do u guys recommend? Oh yeaa. also. its my first turbo project. me and some friends gonna install it ourselfs and have it tuned later, i askd sum shop how much is installation they said $950 and it takes 15 hours, i was like. WTF? what is a decent price? thanx alot guys
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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yeah 950 dollars for a turbo kit is about right but if your capable no one in there right mind should pay that.

take into consideration good shop time is about 80 an hour
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Can it be selfinstall then driven to tune shop and get it tuned?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djeclipzjv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can it be selfinstall then driven to tune shop and get it tuned?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djeclipzjv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can it be selfinstall then driven to tune shop and get it tuned?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would advise a base map since you are going with bigger injectors, I hope. Call the person tuning or contact member 'mtber' here on ht. They can burn you a base map. DO NOT take it into boost with this basemap.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djeclipzjv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">250WHP, wow, that is like.... 9.... 10 PSI?? well i was considering chaning my waterpump,timing belt at the same time as the installation and adding a under pulley kit. but then also though about putting a metal head gasket to higher the compression to maybe add anopther 2lbs of boost . so i can maybe run 9-10PSI. what do u guys recommend? Oh yeaa. also. its my first turbo project. me and some friends gonna install it ourselfs and have it tuned later, i askd sum shop how much is installation they said $950 and it takes 15 hours, i was like. WTF? what is a decent price? thanx alot guys</TD></TR></TABLE>

You cant say 10 psi is 250whp. Too many variables. Like a t25 will produce way less power at the same psi, compared to like a gt42r. Go into the tune with a power goal. Not how much boost I am running.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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btw u want lower compression for turbo
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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sorry, was kinda confuse bout the compression. but. the greddy both ono kit comes with a E-manage. the total kit with intercooler, digi boost control, autotimer,gauges, and some other little accesorries including a Greddy BOV, i found a good price for the whole package for like 3000 thats with sum discount offered and sum other stuff. but anyways, that had nothing to do wit it. like i was saying. the E-manage is a piggibak, so.. does the car still need proper tuning? and do i need the whole new map from the mtb sumtin guy/ thanx alot for the support guys
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95DxSi-R2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">holy **** batman...3"......go 2" or 2.25"</TD></TR></TABLE>

what? are you saying 2 is better than 3?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djeclipzjv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry, was kinda confuse bout the compression. but. the greddy both ono kit comes with a E-manage. the total kit with intercooler, digi boost control, autotimer,gauges, and some other little accesorries including a Greddy BOV, i found a good price for the whole package for like 3000 thats with sum discount offered and sum other stuff. but anyways, that had nothing to do wit it. like i was saying. the E-manage is a piggibak, so.. does the car still need proper tuning? and do i need the whole new map from the mtb sumtin guy/ thanx alot for the support guys</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes you sould get the proper tuning! gl
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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for safety i would install emanage before u drive it to a tuner... the extra work would give me piece of mind.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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is the e-manage basically plug and play? and also. i herd , don't kno if tru, are turbonetic turbo's bettr then Greddy ingeneral? in term of lag time/spool time?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andyroo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw u want lower compression for turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't listen to this guy.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djeclipzjv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the e-manage basically plug and play? and also. i herd , don't kno if tru, are turbonetic turbo's bettr then Greddy ingeneral? in term of lag time/spool time?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well it depends on the size really, but if you get a ball bearing it will obviously spool faster.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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i was told you can run as high as 320 on stock b16a2 internals with good tune of course
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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320 WHP? no way, i doubt it, ur pistons and rod would probably give up in a week or two.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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nope you can easily get 320 on stock b16a2 internals with good tune!! I know people with daily drivers
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was told you can run as high as 320 on stock b16a2 internals with good tune of course</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope you can easily get 320 on stock b16a2 internals with good tune!! I know people with daily drivers </TD></TR></TABLE>

You just counterdicted yourself. After 250whp, it will become unreliable.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95DxSi-R2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">holy **** batman...3"......go 2" or 2.25"</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope you were kidding.

7 psi on stock B16 internals will be fine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djeclipzjv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">320 WHP? no way, i doubt it, ur pistons and rod would probably give up in a week or two. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no reason why you could not hold that power with a good tune.

This was the wrong place to ask this question, since it seems like only a handful of people in this thread are actually giving accurate information.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You just counterdicted yourself. After 250whp, it will become unreliable.</TD></TR></TABLE>


No contradiction, I know people that have daily driver with 300 + HP and it is NOT unreliable over 250. Get a good tune !!
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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soooooooooo much bad info on this site expletive, almost engough for me to stop replying to other peoples threads................

i run a similar setup on a d16z6 its good, i like it, also at 7 psi


i run the greddy cast manifold, the mitsu turbo 15g, dsm 450's, p28 crome, apexi t timer, and some guages ran me under 500 bucks pieaced to gether

sx engineering intercooler and 3 inch piping,

it is completley fine on a stock motor, god wh re theyre so many ricers on this forumn?

syndicate knows nothing neither does his butt buddy ricerkidafi or w/e his goat rape name is, androo leave
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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on a good tune, on stock internals, you can run no more than 9-10psi without any problems. talk to the guys in the forced induction forum they can tell u more. ive been running 6-10psi on stock internals for a while and its still running fine.
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