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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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i was wonderin ive been readin this book i got on honda swaps
and it said that some h22 are external coil and majority are internal now i was wonderin how can you tell if the coil is internal or external?
Also if doin the h22 swap i should stay away from the h22a4 right?
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludecrasy87 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... now i was wonderin how can you tell if the coil is internal or external?</TD></TR></TABLE>Well, look for the ignition coil. It's either gonna be located INSIDE the distributor, or OUTSIDE of the distributor...
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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if it's internal you will see 4 spark plug cables running off of the dizzy, if it's external you'll see 5.

Stay away from H22A4, they produce 5 more HP but they have a higher rate of failure.

If you can I'd suggest getting a JDM H22A, they're built a lot better than the A4's, I know someone that has gone through 2 A4's and has a JDM H22A, he's got 9 PSI on the JDM and it's still pushin', the A4's were NA.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Accord2k-Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stay away from H22A4, they produce 5 more HP but they have a higher rate of failure.

If you can I'd suggest getting a JDM H22A, they're built a lot better than the A4's, I know someone that has gone through 2 A4's and has a JDM H22A, he's got 9 PSI on the JDM and it's still pushin', the A4's were NA.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm... I'd like to know why the JDM H22A is so much better and why the H22A4 has a higher failure rate.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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you've got me, I'm just stating statistics.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Statistics from where? Your friend? What were the failures for your friend's first 2 H22 motors?

I ask because I've never seen a higher failure rate with ANY specific H22. Considering the differences between each motor, I see no reason why one should be more prone to failure than another.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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like philadd said... I hope your not basing your info off your one friends experience.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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I've personnaly seen 5 H22A4s go bad, 4 of which had thrown bearings, and the 5th was due to the moron leaving the timing belt open, a piece of wood jumped in from a truck in front of him and he bent his valves.

the other 4 were under normal driving conditions, all the same failure, all built in ohio USDM.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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no offence but thats just not enough info for me to believe that the H22A is so much better than the H22A4. There's too many variables to be considered to take what your saying as fact. I would need to see proven facts on why one is better than the other. Just my opinion.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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to each their own I guess, I just prefer JDM parts over USDM parts now because of my experience, one of those 4 engines was mine, I ordered a JDM OBD1 because I never heard of any of them going bad under normal conditions, I havn't regreted it yet.

To top it off, my mechanic that helped me with the swap decided to toss the broken H22A4 out while I was deployed, so now I can't get it built like I had originally wanted.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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I guess... just keep in mind that because it's JDM doesn't mean it's better.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Okay, so throw the 5th one out the window and you have 4 H22A4s with spun bearings. Either way, I don't consider that anywhere near a large enough sample (statistically speaking) to say that H22A4s have a higher failure rate. Personally, I've seen more H22A1s fail than all other H22s combined. By your reasoning and my "statistics", people should stay away from H22A1s. But that really isn't the case, is it?

Statistically speaking, there is no H22 variant that is more prone to failure than another. I highly doubt 4 motors spun bearings under "normal" driving conditions. It just doesn't work like that. Your friends seem to have a problem with either over-revving their engines or checking their oil levels. Or both.
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