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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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I ran a 14.1 a while back and nobody believed me because all i had was an Injen CAI and i didnt have any other proof than the time slip. All i have is an Injen CAI still but this time i got it on video though, and it was at a different track. I was running consistent 14.2's and 14.3's all day. The video is on camera and being worked on and hopefully will be up and running on the net very soon. ill post the youtube link and try to embed it in this post as well.

14.150 to be exact. My 60 foot wasnt very good though. but i got it done and took off.

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EDIT: 14.7 regular shifting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CHupqzp3U

14.15 boost shifting... http://www.liquidsolace.com/misc/trag141.MPG

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here is the 14.1 video again but its the one on you tube. cannot see the 14.1 time but it is a better free streaming video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JEC2TsBJqw

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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nice...waiting for that vid
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Jesus I need to go to THAT track. I call bull until I see the video or unless you had a damn 50mph tailwind cause I have an injen CAI and DCRH and could only pull a 14.7 with a damn near perfect launch and all seasons.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jesus I need to go to THAT track. I call bull until I see the video or unless you had a damn 50mph tailwind cause I have an injen CAI and DCRH and could only pull a 14.7 with a damn near perfect launch and all seasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha you need to learn to drive. I pulled a 14.6 stock with the shitty all seasons.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90CRXLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Haha you need to learn to drive. I pulled a 14.6 stock with the shitty all seasons. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No I don't. I had the closest thing to a perfect launch you can get. Tracks are different. I guess I just have one of the shitty ones.

I had a .7 reaction and the minimum you could get before red-lighting was a .500 not that it factors anyway. All my shifts were perfect. It's just the track. I'll bet my bottom dollar I'd eat you up if I went to YOUR track.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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in for vids! going to the track friday night and hope i can get similar results!
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Im interested to see the vid as well.

Cant wait for Spring/Summer so I can run my car @ the track
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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ZZZZZZzzzzz, drag racing.... These cars are meant to turn.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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RICO, the 14.1 is hardly bs...

14.7 with DCRH and CAI?!?!?! That's just pathetic slow... you must not leave your foot on the gas when you shift.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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reaction time doesnt have to do anything with your quarter mile time. and the damn near 60 foot time for these cars would be a 2.0 flat. and think about where he is at....he's lives in Alabama(sp?) the weather conditions and higher altitude. makes a big difference...probably prepped track as well. so many factors in this that can be very different in other places.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jesus I need to go to THAT track. I call bull until I see the video or unless you had a damn 50mph tailwind cause I have an injen CAI and DCRH and could only pull a 14.7 with a damn near perfect launch and all seasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I pulled a 15.0 totally stock and michelins on the car one week into ownership.
If i got a 14.7 with CAI and Race Header I'd kill myself.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Didnt someone already run a 13.9 with the dc race header/I/ and hondata reflash ?
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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So your speed shifting right? I would rather do that to my car. I tried a few times and I could tell it made a significant difference.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jonebone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">RICO, the 14.1 is hardly bs...

14.7 with DCRH and CAI?!?!?! That's just pathetic slow... you must not leave your foot on the gas when you shift.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is it BS if the best of drivers from Motortrend could only pull a 14.9 stock. Different tracks yield different results there Einstein People will probably run faster because none of them are in San Antonio. Bring that 14.1 car down here and I bet he won't get anywhere NEAR that time. He'll be lucky to break 15.0 on this track.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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the correct term is power shifting

and... there are many factors that do play a part in your 1/4 time.. but idk.. stock times w/ those mods.. try powershifting ;]
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Powershifting didn't yield any different results for me. The difference was about .03 seconds. Hardly worth the stress on the transmission that results! I was just clean shifting.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How is it BS if the best of drivers from Motortrend could only pull a 14.9 stock. Different tracks yield different results there Einstein People will probably run faster because none of them are in San Antonio. Bring that 14.1 car down here and I bet he won't get anywhere NEAR that time. He'll be lucky to break 15.0 on this track. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just so you know, you really cant go by magazines. Normally when they launch cars they drop them all from the same RPM level. 2k RPMS might be great for a vette, but drop 2k in a SI and you will bog it. Magazines have a come a long way with their numbers, but, they still are fairly far off with stuff.


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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How is it BS if the best of drivers from Motortrend could only pull a 14.9 stock. Different tracks yield different results there Einstein People will probably run faster because none of them are in San Antonio. Bring that 14.1 car down here and I bet he won't get anywhere NEAR that time. He'll be lucky to break 15.0 on this track. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I know what your saying about the different tracks yielding different times..but come on, the track is not going to yield almost a 1 second difference. Ive succesfully run a 14.1 at 2 different tracks now.

I launched a couple of different rpm's. and ive come to figure out that my best launches were coming from about 2000-2300. i have launched at 3 and 4k before and that has worked too. I try to go around the water as much as possible. if i get the tires a little wet before i line up then i launch at 2300ish...if there dryi go a little higher.

I do "boost shift" or "powershift". i think ive gotten it down pat. i can do it pretty well and i was consistently running 14.2's and 14.3's all day. and then i ran that 14.1. My buddy in Auburn is working on getting the video cut down and on the net. ill see if he can do some of the 14.2's and 3's as well.

I really do not care if yall believe it or not. the fact is it happened. whether you accept it or not is your call. but at least watch the video first.

And about the difference from boost shift to regular shift served me well...I ran a 14.7 while normal shifting...and cut off about 1/2 a second due to boost shifting...or at least thats what i think.

I only go to the track though when its in cold weather...VTEC hits so much harder the colder it is. I always make sure to have had a recent oil change...and then i just let her go.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Heres a video of me runnin a 14.7 with my buddy eric in his 350Z. This was without boost shifting. but somehow the trap speed was all screwed up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CHupqzp3U
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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when i go back to the track im gonna try a few different things...launch at a higher rpm and have the tires set at dd psi and power shift.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Just so you know, you really cant go by magazines. Normally when they launch cars they drop them all from the same RPM level. 2k RPMS might be great for a vette, but drop 2k in a SI and you will bog it. Magazines have a come a long way with their numbers, but, they still are fairly far off with stuff.


Modified by cnyej1 at 5:09 PM 2/20/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is just flat out wrong, C&D R&T and Motor Trend ALL use differing launches depending on the vehicle and what works best. You may be thinking of the correction factors that Car and Driver uses, but to say they lauch all cars the same is blatant misinformation.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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im with jon on this one.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is just flat out wrong, C&D R&T and Motor Trend ALL use differing launches depending on the vehicle and what works best. You may be thinking of the correction factors that Car and Driver uses, but to say they lauch all cars the same is blatant misinformation.

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Maybe I am thinking of the correction factors etc. Im basing my info off of what a relative explained to me, who used to do this for Road and track. This was 10 + years ago. IDK.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRAG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know what your saying about the different tracks yielding different times..but come on, the track is not going to yield almost a 1 second difference. Ive succesfully run a 14.1 at 2 different tracks now.

I launched a couple of different rpm's. and ive come to figure out that my best launches were coming from about 2000-2300. i have launched at 3 and 4k before and that has worked too. I try to go around the water as much as possible. if i get the tires a little wet before i line up then i launch at 2300ish...if there dryi go a little higher.

I do "boost shift" or "powershift". i think ive gotten it down pat. i can do it pretty well and i was consistently running 14.2's and 14.3's all day. and then i ran that 14.1. My buddy in Auburn is working on getting the video cut down and on the net. ill see if he can do some of the 14.2's and 3's as well.

I really do not care if yall believe it or not. the fact is it happened. whether you accept it or not is your call. but at least watch the video first.

And about the difference from boost shift to regular shift served me well...I ran a 14.7 while normal shifting...and cut off about 1/2 a second due to boost shifting...or at least thats what i think.

I only go to the track though when its in cold weather...VTEC hits so much harder the colder it is. I always make sure to have had a recent oil change...and then i just let her go.

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Well i've been to the track several different times with this car and the mods I have....and I tell you if there's any way imaginable i could have pulled a 14.1 then it would have happened. Each time I went I ran my car AT LEAST half a dozen times. Launching anywhere from the stationary rev limiter to as low as 2000 rpm. At 2000 I was bogging and ran horribly....at the rev limiter I was wheel hoppin mad crazy and ran as bad as I did when I bogged. In between is where I ran the best time.

I've feathered the gas, powershifted, you name it. I've gone in cold weather, humid, dry. Cold dry nights were my best. This track is just one of those crappy ones I guess. Maybe I had a bad head wind that day i dunno. All I know is that i'm not the only one. Tons of cars that go there run bad times. Stock ZO6 vettes runnin 13s when they easily break 12s, WRXs running 14.8s, STis barely runnin 13.8s, Infiniti G35 coupes runnin 14.5s, and even a cammed '04 Cobra that only ran a 12.9 when stock cobras pull those numbers. There's been a high compilation of terrible track times by all kinds of different cars.

So it can't just be me. It's got to be a combination of the weather and track conditions. If there were any way to get a better time I would have found it by now. The only other thing I can think of is getting new tires and stiffer suspension to reduce the wheel hop.

**P.S. - still waitin on that video **
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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my buddie james ran a 14.29 bone stock in his 07 powershifting
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